TheBluesBrother Bridle Loanan looks like he can win again and what figure would Zizaneur have picked up had he not unseated Dave Maxwell.
TheBluesBrother figures throw up from todays card.
AVG OR 129
AVG OR 135
AVG OR 138
TheBluesBrother if i may ,if we just think about the Classiest horses , what type of Pace Map do you think would produce the quickest Speed Figure ? or does it not matter ? Thankyou.
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TheBluesBrother , i found this website which looks interesting . he explains how he arrives at his figures there and while they are not Speed Figures as such , i think maybe the Pace of a race can often determine the result ?
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TheBluesBrother is completely up to you.......... but if you use RP/Topspeed data (or Topspeed standards to derive your own timefigures ) which quite a few on here do it seems, well good luck.
TheBluesBrother so apologises for that !! No , seriously i would be interested in any explanations you may have and maybe you could answer my question , if we just think about the Classiest horses , what type of Pace Map / Pace Tempo do you think would produce the quickest Speed Figure ? or does it not matter ?
TheBluesBrother . many thanks .
Hi Dave,
I have never seen an accurate set of standard times published, I’ve looked Racing post, raceform , data form, racing and football outlook, I have a copy of sportsman’s standards and mordin standards on my pc , I’ve looked at racingsense none of them reliable enough to have confidence and actually put money down on the back of them, The elusive Timeform standards i think must be a closely guarded secret because I’ve never come across a copy, maybe they are the best, I couldn’t comment. For nine months now I’ve been trying to produce better standards than all of them but even after all that time only relatively recently realised my sheet has a slight leniancy bias towards the longer distances especially those with limited races in the database. I won’t give up because I treat it as a hobby to do in between races when I’m playing in running, but i can see from my better attempts that speed figures will be profitable if high level of accuracy can be achieved , I’m absolutely convinced of this. I think
TheBluesBrother said on here that anyone who cracks Tramore NH standards would be worthy of a PhD and I think in general using the data to achieve an accurate set of standards has some many variables that perfection will never be possible and it is a monumental task that I have never seen evidence of being cracked to the required accuracy. I don’t think you get the Timeform standards even if you pay loads to subscribe , if I could buy a copy I would just so I could run them through my sheets and see how accurate they are. The best speed figures I saw were top speed in the racing post many years ago on the jumps when they were briefly compiled by a guy called Tony Hargaves, his standards must have been pretty good at the time.P Paceman , i put the question to
on another point , what are your plans for your website ? and would it be possible to download your Pacemaps in a different format ie Excel so you can input some Speed Figures next to each Pace map , such as those excellent figs produced by
I have never seen an accurate set of standard times published, I’ve looked Racing post, raceform , data form, racing and football outlook, I have a copy of sportsman’s standards and mordin standards on my pc , I’ve looked at racingsense none of them reliable enough to have confidence and actually put money down on the back of them, The elusive Timeform standards i think must be a closely guarded secret because I’ve never come across a copy, maybe they are the best, I couldn’t comment. For nine months now I’ve been trying to produce better standards than all of them but even after all that time only relatively recently realised my sheet has a slight leniancy bias towards the longer distances especially those with limited races in the database. I won’t give up because I treat it as a hobby to do in between races when I’m playing in running, but i can see from my better attempts that speed figures will be profitable if high level of accuracy can be achieved , I’m absolutely convinced of this. I think
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P Paceman , i put the question to
on another point , what are your plans for your website ? and would it be possible to download your Pacemaps in a different format ie Excel so you can input some Speed Figures next to each Pace map , such as those excellent figs produced by
Outlander, your standard times will reflect a leniency bias towards longer distances because they aren't compiled properly. You can't compile a list of standard times from each 20th percentile for example by distance ( or adjust the percentile according to the number of times you are using) because that is completely unrealistic.I have never seen an accurate set of standard times published, I’ve looked Racing post, raceform , data form, racing and football outlook, I have a copy of sportsman’s standards and mordin standards on my pc , I’ve looked at racingsense none of them reliable enough to have confidence and actually put money down on the back of them, The elusive Timeform standards i think must be a closely guarded secret because I’ve never come across a copy, maybe they are the best, I couldn’t comment. For nine months now I’ve been trying to produce better standards than all of them but even after all that time only relatively recently realised my sheet has a slight leniancy bias towards the longer distances especially those with limited races in the database. I won’t give up because I treat it as a hobby to do in between races when I’m playing in running, but i can see from my better attempts that speed figures will be profitable if high level of accuracy can be achieved , I’m absolutely convinced of this. I think
