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gerry
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Left saturday alone and i think would have been as well as only see one i would have one on and would have surely been other loosing saturday.
Infact i think the change in ground over maybe last 8 to 10 days made it really tough for everyone and should not be to dissheartened by it .
Any way back to today i think i will go for two bets.
4 45 NEWMARKET we have a unknown unbeaten fav in this makes it akward but gosden has had 8 out of 10 under 2/1 beaten in last 14 days.
So i think DAYSOFOURLIVES if runs to its last run and back up to distance it won at is deff worth betting in this race.Exspecially as that run was at newmarket.
3 50 RIPON GOLDEN MELODY this horse ran a cracker round here last time and has winning grass form but the final decision was made with paul mulrennan put up for easterby on it for first time very interesting.
A other little thing i noticed when checking mulrennan was he had a decent priced horse lately just beat round here drawn 9 the same as this horse might sound daft but he knows what to do coming out from here and might be the little tiny edge needed to get this one across line.
I have mentioned on other thread here that easterby likes to get horses fit and running well to win after couple decent efforts but looks like maybe going quicker with this one and had cheeks on last time to just like today.
Infact i think the change in ground over maybe last 8 to 10 days made it really tough for everyone and should not be to dissheartened by it .
Any way back to today i think i will go for two bets.
4 45 NEWMARKET we have a unknown unbeaten fav in this makes it akward but gosden has had 8 out of 10 under 2/1 beaten in last 14 days.
So i think DAYSOFOURLIVES if runs to its last run and back up to distance it won at is deff worth betting in this race.Exspecially as that run was at newmarket.
3 50 RIPON GOLDEN MELODY this horse ran a cracker round here last time and has winning grass form but the final decision was made with paul mulrennan put up for easterby on it for first time very interesting.
A other little thing i noticed when checking mulrennan was he had a decent priced horse lately just beat round here drawn 9 the same as this horse might sound daft but he knows what to do coming out from here and might be the little tiny edge needed to get this one across line.
I have mentioned on other thread here that easterby likes to get horses fit and running well to win after couple decent efforts but looks like maybe going quicker with this one and had cheeks on last time to just like today.
gerry
Mare
Well as grounbd settles to alittle better form should start settling down exspecially once all horses more or less had run on grass too.
Looking at todays there is only two worth a mention to me and you would hope one would win to show small profit at least.
7 00 carlisle jordan electrics, this horse loves fast ground as trainer even stated when won only time sent here. Also won last time out and jockey 2 from 4 on it so looks like trainer fancies this one trainer is 3 from 3 last 14 days on under 3/1 shots..
8 00 carlisle redarna , This a other horse similar won here 4 times and has two runs on slower ground to get it ready they runs where one a easier tracks to when it needs stiffer track to be at best so looks every thing right to run massive race same jockey on it who has won 4 times on it too only slight worry is trainer hasnt got going yet but hrose has enough recent form to incline her first winner.
Looking at todays there is only two worth a mention to me and you would hope one would win to show small profit at least.
7 00 carlisle jordan electrics, this horse loves fast ground as trainer even stated when won only time sent here. Also won last time out and jockey 2 from 4 on it so looks like trainer fancies this one trainer is 3 from 3 last 14 days on under 3/1 shots..
8 00 carlisle redarna , This a other horse similar won here 4 times and has two runs on slower ground to get it ready they runs where one a easier tracks to when it needs stiffer track to be at best so looks every thing right to run massive race same jockey on it who has won 4 times on it too only slight worry is trainer hasnt got going yet but hrose has enough recent form to incline her first winner.
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gerry
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Well no need to worry today as there nothing to like never mind have doubts about very poor flat racing to say least.
The only interesting bit i can give you today is very similar to the tariner of jordan electrics with now 4/4 winners under a price.
There is quiet a similar stat from N W Alexander over the jumps where has 3 from 4 winners and a second for horses 5/1 and under and have a couple running shorter than that today could be interesting.
The horses are BETTER BE DEFINITE and WARRIORS STORY. I have stuck a little double on them anyway.
The only interesting bit i can give you today is very similar to the tariner of jordan electrics with now 4/4 winners under a price.
There is quiet a similar stat from N W Alexander over the jumps where has 3 from 4 winners and a second for horses 5/1 and under and have a couple running shorter than that today could be interesting.
The horses are BETTER BE DEFINITE and WARRIORS STORY. I have stuck a little double on them anyway.
gerry
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The one that looks to me like should win again is KELPIE GREY 3 50 AYR.
This horse will like decnt fast ground and i think was maybe over tried originally or soft ground , But has bounzed back this year, I think possibly stronger horse and letting it bowl along has made massive differance going back up to a mile could be slight worry, but stable when strongly fancied 4 from 4 looks good and they love round here.
This horse will like decnt fast ground and i think was maybe over tried originally or soft ground , But has bounzed back this year, I think possibly stronger horse and letting it bowl along has made massive differance going back up to a mile could be slight worry, but stable when strongly fancied 4 from 4 looks good and they love round here.
gerry
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I have started betting ambiente friendly for the derby hoping the ground drys out by then if we can get the ground running fast then i think only one winner and the odds of 6/1 roughly look to good, I am still stuck in my mind the time my dad said to me reference point had done a decent time before lingfield trial and he told every one it will do good time that day on lingfield trial get on and then bet it for derby to as it will be hot fav after today.
He was spot on it done great time in lingfield trial and went to 7/4 for derby right away.
Ambiente friendly was beaten in decent time then done good time in lingfield trial ok maybe not as good as refrence point but if ground comes up fast the 9/2 or 6/1 i took might look really good.
This horse looks like just hasnt had a really fast pace to make it settle which surely in derby will get so although sentament bet bring on fast ground.
He was spot on it done great time in lingfield trial and went to 7/4 for derby right away.
Ambiente friendly was beaten in decent time then done good time in lingfield trial ok maybe not as good as refrence point but if ground comes up fast the 9/2 or 6/1 i took might look really good.
This horse looks like just hasnt had a really fast pace to make it settle which surely in derby will get so although sentament bet bring on fast ground.
gerry
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Well i am hoping for good run from meydaan in the 3 40 goodwood as was well beaten by ambiente friendly at lingfield and that would be good sign and probely shorten yet again for derby and as i am on already would be nice.
Worth watching anyway to see how it runs.
But looking more indepth at todays racing i havnt even had chance to look at tonights flat racing i should have studied some last night didnt relise so many meetings on.
Anyway there was three horses i looked at today who i didnt see much wrong with as in my usual doubts all three had one doubt and i will name them and the slight doubt.
FRANCOPHONE 2 05 GOODWOOD. I just felt some unknowns in this only doubt but feel will need be good to beat this.
RIVER OF STARS 3 20 YORK. Lightly raced and the only worry i had if any was not had run but has shown to be ok with that.
DREAMS A DOZEN 2 55 CHESTER .
Not even sure if doubt should exsist on this one as run really well first time up round here infast quick ground and has great reacord here on easier so should be fine so could be double for the johnstone stable.
Worth watching anyway to see how it runs.
But looking more indepth at todays racing i havnt even had chance to look at tonights flat racing i should have studied some last night didnt relise so many meetings on.
Anyway there was three horses i looked at today who i didnt see much wrong with as in my usual doubts all three had one doubt and i will name them and the slight doubt.
FRANCOPHONE 2 05 GOODWOOD. I just felt some unknowns in this only doubt but feel will need be good to beat this.
RIVER OF STARS 3 20 YORK. Lightly raced and the only worry i had if any was not had run but has shown to be ok with that.
DREAMS A DOZEN 2 55 CHESTER .
Not even sure if doubt should exsist on this one as run really well first time up round here infast quick ground and has great reacord here on easier so should be fine so could be double for the johnstone stable.
gerry
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One thing i have noticed the more i really get into study again is how hard it actually is to set all the right parameters in order to finally come out with solid bets that as they say all the boxes ticked.
The only way i see it is its actually very rare you get a solid bet that you just wont see get beat there is always doubts .
Like look at those races today there was so much yet i still didnt have one i had no doubts of some sort about.
I can however see why when finally get ones where to be fair i have had before that i am sure wont get beat and no doubts on my mind the first thing you actually do is get scared as your thinking if this gets beat then where do i go with my study thats how tought this game is.
Take my derby bet for instance if the ground comes up with anything firm in it then my horse has got everything it could wish for but there is still doubts as there so many unknowns in a derby yet when my dad done it he had no doubts refrenece point would win maybe its a confidence thing really.
But i have no doubt things will be better when ground faster over summer months always are.
The only way i see it is its actually very rare you get a solid bet that you just wont see get beat there is always doubts .
Like look at those races today there was so much yet i still didnt have one i had no doubts of some sort about.
I can however see why when finally get ones where to be fair i have had before that i am sure wont get beat and no doubts on my mind the first thing you actually do is get scared as your thinking if this gets beat then where do i go with my study thats how tought this game is.
Take my derby bet for instance if the ground comes up with anything firm in it then my horse has got everything it could wish for but there is still doubts as there so many unknowns in a derby yet when my dad done it he had no doubts refrenece point would win maybe its a confidence thing really.
But i have no doubt things will be better when ground faster over summer months always are.
gerry
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yeah they can be wierd at times but i did notice hes winning with more fancied horses than he used too.
And easterby i think has been quiet easy for me the last year to see if they will go well.
A simple tip with easterby is watch r/post ratings when they run and go higher exspecially twice in a row usually ready to have a go with and never far away.
And easterby i think has been quiet easy for me the last year to see if they will go well.
A simple tip with easterby is watch r/post ratings when they run and go higher exspecially twice in a row usually ready to have a go with and never far away.
gerry
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Well went through todays racing last night and very poor yet again.
But there is not much we can do to force bets so be quiet day for me for sure.
There is only two well possibly three things out of todays racing that made me take notice the first one is the zetland at redcar has always been a nice race for me exspecially when ground faster which is not today.
But what i noticed is the first four in the betting all run in same race at goodwood last time filling the first four places in a race you could say similar to todays race and i do think that was soft ground and the winner likely come from these four which one really is a guess for me so i will be leaving it alone.
But the 5th horse in that race also runs today but in the 4 15 leicester indemnity now instead of saying why not have crack at zetland too this horse is droping two classes in easier race, was only beat 4 lengths weakening late on first run and now dropping back in distance.
So looks like this one is of interest with not needing to work out which one is better of now.
The only other thing i noticed today was in the 1 55 leicester corsican caper stepped up slightly in class two days ago and won and now they have decided to run it so quick ok up 5lb but its apprentace race and claiming the 5lb back of so it looks to me like trainer just thinks to good a oppertunaty to miss and also a good sign a horse in top form in apprentace race odds are bit skinny but for good reason more than likely.
Might be worth small double these too.
Witr maybe havn't decided yet forecast in zetland with all four of the horses who ran in goodwood race depends if worth it .
But there is not much we can do to force bets so be quiet day for me for sure.
There is only two well possibly three things out of todays racing that made me take notice the first one is the zetland at redcar has always been a nice race for me exspecially when ground faster which is not today.
But what i noticed is the first four in the betting all run in same race at goodwood last time filling the first four places in a race you could say similar to todays race and i do think that was soft ground and the winner likely come from these four which one really is a guess for me so i will be leaving it alone.
But the 5th horse in that race also runs today but in the 4 15 leicester indemnity now instead of saying why not have crack at zetland too this horse is droping two classes in easier race, was only beat 4 lengths weakening late on first run and now dropping back in distance.
So looks like this one is of interest with not needing to work out which one is better of now.
The only other thing i noticed today was in the 1 55 leicester corsican caper stepped up slightly in class two days ago and won and now they have decided to run it so quick ok up 5lb but its apprentace race and claiming the 5lb back of so it looks to me like trainer just thinks to good a oppertunaty to miss and also a good sign a horse in top form in apprentace race odds are bit skinny but for good reason more than likely.
Might be worth small double these too.
Witr maybe havn't decided yet forecast in zetland with all four of the horses who ran in goodwood race depends if worth it .