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"the beautiful game"

Still exists but nowhere near TV cameras. There are some really good non league sides playing attractive football with teams full of lads who didn't quite make it through the academy system.
For a tenner, you can see most games at level 4 and below. A couple of hundred stalwarts braving the weather. At Newton Aycliffe the ground holds 1300 with 193 seats.

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As you can see most of us stand around the touchline. Bradford Park Avenue lead the division.
 
Still exists but nowhere near TV cameras. There are some really good non league sides playing attractive football with teams full of lads who didn't quite make it through the academy system.
For a tenner, you can see most games at level 4 and below. A couple of hundred stalwarts braving the weather. At Newton Aycliffe the ground holds 1300 with 193 seats.

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As you can see most of us stand around the touchline. Bradford Park Avenue lead the division.



Many locals still attend the new ground it was disgrace what happened to Avenues origonal ground
Between 1851 and 1875, Bradford Cricket Club (formed 1836) played on a ground in the neighbourhood of Claremont on what is now Pemberton Drive. The Great Horton Road ground, sometimes known as Easby Road, also hosted eight Yorkshire CCC matches. However when this venue was lost to housing in 1875, the Bradford club went into a state of limbo.
At the end of the 1870s, a group of gentlemen including J. Harper Mitchell, W.H. Shepherd and John Hardaker decided to resurrect the old Bradford club. With some council help, they acquired the use of a ground on Park Avenue, where work began on facilities in 1879. And an agreement was reached between the cricket club and the rugby club at Apperley Bridge to form the Bradford Cricket, Athletic and Football Club.
Park Avenue's eight acres were officially opened with a cricket match on 20th July 1880. The first rugby match on 25th September 1880 against Bradford Rangers was played on a section of the cricket field. On the opposite side of Park Avenue, Horton Park station on the Bradford Exchange – Queensbury – Halifax/Keighley line was opened by the Great Northern on November 1st 1880.
At the time of the opening, the splendid cricket pavilion, designed by Messrs Andrews and Peppers, was still under construction on the southern side of the cricket ground. But progress was sufficient for county cricket to return to the town in 1881,
On the northern side of the ground stood an impressive two-sided stand which provided covered viewing for both rugby and cricket spectators. The stand also incorporated rugby changing rooms.
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The original main stand at Park Avenue
In order to secure the future of the rugby and cricket sections at Park Avenue, the members voted on 17th December 1891 to form the Incorporated Bradford Cricket, Athletic and Football club which entitled it to hold lands. This met the wishes of the owner Mr Francis Sharp Powell, M.P. who was willing to transfer the field to the club on a 999-year lease at nominal ground rent as long as he could be assured that the field would be used for those three sports. However there are conflicting reports vis-à-vis the early ownership of the ground. Some sources suggest that the trustees had paid Mr Powell between £2,000 and £4,000 for the freehold in 1879. Powell Avenue separates the ground from Horton Park is presumably named after the former owner.
When the association game was introduced to Park Avenue in 1895, facilities for spectators would have borne little resemblance to those of later years. The terraces were probably little more than earth banks, perhaps strengthened by railway sleepers. Interestingly the terrace under the later main stand was never concreted.
The banks behind the two goals were still uncovered in the 1890's and were only a few rows deep. Indeed the Canterbury Avenue end remained open to the elements until the ground closed in 1973. It is not known when the covered "Low stand" was built on the Park Avenue side of the ground, but a photograph in Trevor Delaney's "Grounds of Rugby League" shows the structure in situ around 1900.
The purchase and development of the ground had put a strain on finances on the club and fiscal matters did not improve following the change to Northern Union (and association) in 1895. By 1896, the club was £10,300 in debt, a huge amount by the standards of the day.
But while association floundered, the rugby section enjoyed a few years of success, winning the Challenge Cup in 1906, which eased the financial burden. However fortunes suddenly plummeted the following season and the club abandoned rugby in favour of association a year later.
A large scale redevelopment of the ground occurred at a cost of around £10,000, to the designs of the eminent football ground designer Archibald Leitch. A new enlarged 360 feet long steel pavilion was erected between the football ground and cricket pitch. This included sixteen tiers and provided 4,000 seats on the football side plus a handful on the cricket side. This was a trademark Leitch double decker stand, the first ground to feature it, with his typical balcony detailing. There were three gables on each side, two at the ends and one in the centre with a clock on the cricket side and huge golden BFC letters on the football side. The two end gables featured the shield from the Bradford coat of arms. The roof was covered in Welsh slate.
Large uncovered concrete terraces were built behind the two goals, the Horton Park end eventually getting a roof after the Second World War. A small building at the corner of the ground housed dressing rooms, baths, a referee's room, refreshment facilities and a committee room. This was nicknamed the "Doll's house" by outsiders, but this name was not in common use by Bradford supporters.
The total capacity of the ground once complete was 37,000. In recognition of the grounds' new status, it staged an England International against Ireland in February 1909.
Archibald Leitch was a staunch Rangers fan who had demanded no fee when designing their new Ibrox stadium in 1899. So he must have had very mixed feelings when Bradford's most successful manager, Tom Maley, persuaded the club to adopt the green and white hoops of his former club Celtic in 1911. Tom was actually born in Portsmouth.
Park Avenue remained largely unaltered for the next seventy years. A social club was built on part of the Canterbury Avenue terrace in the early 1970's, but the club was forced to sell the ground in 1973 and ground-share with Bradford City at Valley Parade.
The ground the fell into disrepair and Archibald Leitch's stands and dressing rooms were finally demolished in 1980. But amateur football did return to the derelict ground later in the decade after the pitch had been cleared of debris and vegetation and made playable again. Indeed Bradford Park Avenue (1975) FC returned to play one nostalgic season in the Bradford Sunday league before an indoor cricket centre was built on one third of the pitch in 1988.
Bradford Cricket Club abandoned Park Avenue when it merged with Bingley in 1983 and moved to Wagon Lane. The cricket pavillion was eventually demolished in 1986. Nevertheless first class cricket did return after new dressing rooms were installed under the Canterbury Avenue terrace. Bradford hosted five County Championship matches between 1992 and 1996. Usage then declined as various lesser county, university and local club sides came and went. However the ground has had a multi-million pound refurbishment in recent years with several new pitches and nets installed. Some are on what was left of the football field. But there is no Bradford League club in residence and major matches have yet to take place.​
 
Still exists but nowhere near TV cameras. There are some really good non league sides playing attractive football with teams full of lads who didn't quite make it through the academy system.
For a tenner, you can see most games at level 4 and below. A couple of hundred stalwarts braving the weather. At Newton Aycliffe the ground holds 1300 with 193 seats.

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As you can see most of us stand around the touchline. Bradford Park Avenue lead the division.

(y) Lots of interest in non-league, grassroots and junior level up here as well mlmrob mlmrob
I still follow the Glasgow Celtic but it's more "bad habit" than anything else, especially with our board. Take 40 odd million from a Champions League run last season which culminated in playing Bayern Munich off the pitch in the Allianz, and just missing out on the next stage by an added time goal.
Do we say "right we're punching above our weight here big time, let's strengthen the squad" - No ! we're sitting on it for a "Rainy day" whilst selling on some of our best players. The "Biscuit Tin" mentality.
Then i think about the Lisbon Lions and how every one of that first team were born within a 15 mile radius of Celtic Park and realise just how bad things are. Or how Good things were !!!
 
Many locals still attend the new ground it was disgrace what happened to Avenues origonal ground
Between 1851 and 1875, Bradford Cricket Club (formed 1836) played on a ground in the neighbourhood of Claremont on what is now Pemberton Drive. The Great Horton Road ground, sometimes known as Easby Road, also hosted eight Yorkshire CCC matches. However when this venue was lost to housing in 1875, the Bradford club went into a state of limbo.
At the end of the 1870s, a group of gentlemen including J. Harper Mitchell, W.H. Shepherd and John Hardaker decided to resurrect the old Bradford club. With some council help, they acquired the use of a ground on Park Avenue, where work began on facilities in 1879. And an agreement was reached between the cricket club and the rugby club at Apperley Bridge to form the Bradford Cricket, Athletic and Football Club.
Park Avenue's eight acres were officially opened with a cricket match on 20th July 1880. The first rugby match on 25th September 1880 against Bradford Rangers was played on a section of the cricket field. On the opposite side of Park Avenue, Horton Park station on the Bradford Exchange – Queensbury – Halifax/Keighley line was opened by the Great Northern on November 1st 1880.
At the time of the opening, the splendid cricket pavilion, designed by Messrs Andrews and Peppers, was still under construction on the southern side of the cricket ground. But progress was sufficient for county cricket to return to the town in 1881,
On the northern side of the ground stood an impressive two-sided stand which provided covered viewing for both rugby and cricket spectators. The stand also incorporated rugby changing rooms.
park avenue 1890

The original main stand at Park Avenue
In order to secure the future of the rugby and cricket sections at Park Avenue, the members voted on 17th December 1891 to form the Incorporated Bradford Cricket, Athletic and Football club which entitled it to hold lands. This met the wishes of the owner Mr Francis Sharp Powell, M.P. who was willing to transfer the field to the club on a 999-year lease at nominal ground rent as long as he could be assured that the field would be used for those three sports. However there are conflicting reports vis-à-vis the early ownership of the ground. Some sources suggest that the trustees had paid Mr Powell between £2,000 and £4,000 for the freehold in 1879. Powell Avenue separates the ground from Horton Park is presumably named after the former owner.
When the association game was introduced to Park Avenue in 1895, facilities for spectators would have borne little resemblance to those of later years. The terraces were probably little more than earth banks, perhaps strengthened by railway sleepers. Interestingly the terrace under the later main stand was never concreted.
The banks behind the two goals were still uncovered in the 1890's and were only a few rows deep. Indeed the Canterbury Avenue end remained open to the elements until the ground closed in 1973. It is not known when the covered "Low stand" was built on the Park Avenue side of the ground, but a photograph in Trevor Delaney's "Grounds of Rugby League" shows the structure in situ around 1900.
The purchase and development of the ground had put a strain on finances on the club and fiscal matters did not improve following the change to Northern Union (and association) in 1895. By 1896, the club was £10,300 in debt, a huge amount by the standards of the day.
But while association floundered, the rugby section enjoyed a few years of success, winning the Challenge Cup in 1906, which eased the financial burden. However fortunes suddenly plummeted the following season and the club abandoned rugby in favour of association a year later.
A large scale redevelopment of the ground occurred at a cost of around £10,000, to the designs of the eminent football ground designer Archibald Leitch. A new enlarged 360 feet long steel pavilion was erected between the football ground and cricket pitch. This included sixteen tiers and provided 4,000 seats on the football side plus a handful on the cricket side. This was a trademark Leitch double decker stand, the first ground to feature it, with his typical balcony detailing. There were three gables on each side, two at the ends and one in the centre with a clock on the cricket side and huge golden BFC letters on the football side. The two end gables featured the shield from the Bradford coat of arms. The roof was covered in Welsh slate.
Large uncovered concrete terraces were built behind the two goals, the Horton Park end eventually getting a roof after the Second World War. A small building at the corner of the ground housed dressing rooms, baths, a referee's room, refreshment facilities and a committee room. This was nicknamed the "Doll's house" by outsiders, but this name was not in common use by Bradford supporters.
The total capacity of the ground once complete was 37,000. In recognition of the grounds' new status, it staged an England International against Ireland in February 1909.
Archibald Leitch was a staunch Rangers fan who had demanded no fee when designing their new Ibrox stadium in 1899. So he must have had very mixed feelings when Bradford's most successful manager, Tom Maley, persuaded the club to adopt the green and white hoops of his former club Celtic in 1911. Tom was actually born in Portsmouth.
Park Avenue remained largely unaltered for the next seventy years. A social club was built on part of the Canterbury Avenue terrace in the early 1970's, but the club was forced to sell the ground in 1973 and ground-share with Bradford City at Valley Parade.
The ground the fell into disrepair and Archibald Leitch's stands and dressing rooms were finally demolished in 1980. But amateur football did return to the derelict ground later in the decade after the pitch had been cleared of debris and vegetation and made playable again. Indeed Bradford Park Avenue (1975) FC returned to play one nostalgic season in the Bradford Sunday league before an indoor cricket centre was built on one third of the pitch in 1988.
Bradford Cricket Club abandoned Park Avenue when it merged with Bingley in 1983 and moved to Wagon Lane. The cricket pavillion was eventually demolished in 1986. Nevertheless first class cricket did return after new dressing rooms were installed under the Canterbury Avenue terrace. Bradford hosted five County Championship matches between 1992 and 1996. Usage then declined as various lesser county, university and local club sides came and went. However the ground has had a multi-million pound refurbishment in recent years with several new pitches and nets installed. Some are on what was left of the football field. But there is no Bradford League club in residence and major matches have yet to take place.​
My eyes spotted "green and white hoops" so had to read - interesting markfinn markfinn
Heard that Archibald Leitch was a bit of a "bawbag" :) a "staunch Rangers fan" indeed - C_ _ t !!!! :) Hail Hail
 
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Lots of european matches on this week, it's easy for other games to slip through the net.

Tonights game:

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The Form predictor doesn't match the Poisson distribution figures.

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Rotherham's home form is keeping them alive, and Bradford's away form is okay. The PD odds below, aren't far off the live odds, so no value indicated. There may be some value in the other goal markets or correct scores.

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The team rating, Rotherham 1.63 (Home) and Bradford 2.20 (Away) leans towards Bradford, but not by much.
The team form performance rating, looks strong for Bradford.

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The overall league table and last 5 games look good for Bradford.


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The head to head match ups, seems to suggest it's one of those fixtures that may be closer than current form suggests.

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Good comeback from 2-0 down.


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Don’t really follow football much because as a Man U fan i find it difficult to care about the conveyor belt of mercenaries infesting the club for years, however I like this thread and I’ve started showing an interest in Bradford CIty results because of it. Some good output there with your charts DuckandDive DuckandDive find interesting although not a football punter myself.
 
Don’t really follow football much because as a Man U fan i find it difficult to care about the conveyor belt of mercenaries infesting the club for years, however I like this thread and I’ve started showing an interest in Bradford CIty results because of it. Some good output there with your charts DuckandDive DuckandDive find interesting although not a football punter myself.

Thanks. :hi:

Football data lends itself to many ways of analysis, but there is still an element of unpredictability, ie: Cardiff 0 Burton 1 in midweek.

In the main euro leagues, there is more liquidity in the other goal markets and room for pricing errors, if they can be found. There are also big syndicates with databases chock full of team/player data that gives them an edge, along with a myriad of complicated equations.

Sometimes, the simplistic way(s) are the best. I can use this predictive model to enter the free Sky Super 6 competitions, who knows how it might turn out, or, a cheeky acca down the local ladbrokes.
 
Lots of european matches on this week, it's easy for other games to slip through the net.

Tonights game:

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The Form predictor doesn't match the Poisson distribution figures.

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Rotherham's home form is keeping them alive, and Bradford's away form is okay. The PD odds below, aren't far off the live odds, so no value indicated. There may be some value in the other goal markets or correct scores.

View attachment 160632

The team rating, Rotherham 1.63 (Home) and Bradford 2.20 (Away) leans towards Bradford, but not by much.
The team form performance rating, looks strong for Bradford.

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The overall league table and last 5 games look good for Bradford.


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The head to head match ups, seems to suggest it's one of those fixtures that may be closer than current form suggests.

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we are carrying a few injuries - but I suppose most are - the game is on Sky tonight so we can all get to pub to watch the whole thrilling 90mins of action - hopefully BFC can at least claim a point and keep the wagon rolling - I think next weeks game is postponed , that gives the players physios a week to catch up
 
DuckandDive DuckandDive,

Yeh, seen that vid before. It is the basic Poisson.

The problem with average goals scored/conceded is that every team has a random game or two in them where the score ends about 5-0 or whatever and can skew the averages. When you then put them into the P model it can over inflate probabilities. You may have noticed in your model, some high odds for teams that should really be shorter. I would consider using a variance comparison to remove the outliers and then a median, before Mr Poisson sees them :)
 
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well the boys are rested and back today 1760782335544.png

Match Synopsis​

Bradford City vs Barnsley
League One - Yorkshire Derby
Saturday, 18 October 2025, 3:00 PM
Venue: University of Bradford Stadium (Valley Parade)

Form & Table Position​

Bradford City are second in League One with 24 points from 11 matches, just one point behind leaders Stevenage. They could go top of the table if they win and other results favor them. The Real EFLSports Mole

Barnsley sit eighth with 17 points from 10 games, having started strongly but are currently winless in their last five matches across all competitions. The Real EFLSports Mole

Key Stats​

Bradford:
Barnsley:

Team News​


Bradford remain without defenders Curtis Tilt and Aden Baldwin. Key attackers Will Swan (6 goals) and Bobby Pointon (5 goals) expected to start. Preview: Bradford City vs Barnsley - prediction, team news, lineups - Sports Mole

Barnsley missing defenders Marc Roberts and Georgie Gent, plus attacker Fabio Jalo. Davis Keillor-Dunn (7 goals) leads their attack. Preview: Bradford City vs Barnsley - prediction, team news, lineups - Sports Mole

What to Expect​

This should be an entertaining match - 82% of Bradford's games have seen both teams score, making them one of League One's most attacking sides. They rarely keep clean sheets but consistently find the net themselves. Bradford City vs Barnsley: Prediction, Lineups & Odds (18/10) Bradford will be strong favorites given their perfect home record and current form advantage.
 
Stat's look good for Bradford, but actual value (AV) compared to expected value (Exp V) is negative. This might change for the good, once the odds adjust to the release of the team sheets.

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