R2, Honest Witness again likely leader maybe Lean Master doesn't cross, I don't want to be on the Lean Master at all, I feel The perfect match and King Glorioso thru 2nd sect. can race pretty handy and can finish the race off strongly, same with Very Grateful but it would have to show a lot of intent early, those three are who I will likely wager , Everstar is a query I'm against it will not be on anything else
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I thought Honest Witness was one of the more obvious ones today, run last time showed improvement and trial since suggests new mark will be within his ability, better draw today, should lead? Purton sticks. Only 5/4 with my bookie, so give it miss but wasn’t looking for alternatives.
Interesting you have enough doubts to have 3 against this one W woof43 .
yes what a piss poor take from me on that race, they actually had no hope, I had the race shape very much different, but I had Honest Witness leading and it runs 69.60 odd on it'd head day in day out, and the others struggle with 70 such a poor call
Golden Friendship ran 2nd and I did not think to play the quinnella with Honest Witness, which would have paid 16.0. Just EW place money for me that race. Dumb dumb dumb.
Good night though, winners the last 3 races and the quinnella in the last. Winning Now place earlier, small Q in R5. Ended up taking Dashing Maurison in the first as well albeit at small stakes.
Vivacious Win horrible ride. But Bottomuptogether I couldn't believe the books opened $9 !!
Good night though, winners the last 3 races and the quinnella in the last. Winning Now place earlier, small Q in R5. Ended up taking Dashing Maurison in the first as well albeit at small stakes.
Vivacious Win horrible ride. But Bottomuptogether I couldn't believe the books opened $9 !!
yes, well done on all your races. some good finds you would have had a good night
Had to re-check all my data and coding from last night, printed out all my raw data vs adjusted to try and make sense what was happening, then found a double tap happening, confidence is a big part of data first and gambling second for mine. Lesson learnt
what was fascinating that race other then my deeds, but they ran into a 6kmh breeze out the gates and then down the back also into a 5kmh and in the run home it was with them 2kmh , normally they would take it a bit quieter into the breeze, but I feel Purton decided to go all out when the others thought it may have been a touch slower and they rode quietly and he pulled their pants down
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Results and an all weather card on Wednesday.
Couple of going changes from Good 1-4 to Yielding 5-6 and then soft. A harder work for times students! Sky Jewellery performance of the day and Turqoise Velocity winner of a race mentioned by O Outlander wins again stepped up in trip and soft ground. Clearly the time of that race was correct.
Couple of going changes from Good 1-4 to Yielding 5-6 and then soft. A harder work for times students! Sky Jewellery performance of the day and Turqoise Velocity winner of a race mentioned by O Outlander wins again stepped up in trip and soft ground. Clearly the time of that race was correct.
Here is my take on the races, a lot of runners just couldn't fire at all, whereas others that had shown they could run on a slow track went well, as mentioned Sky Jewellery went well previously on a slowish track. Turquoise V went really well, evidence by his Pace D figure when compared with the other races, pace effected the first race , 2nd race was about even really Legend Positive = Slow track , should have run quicker , Negative = Fast track , should have run slower
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Just seen this, people money buying but you need to be brave at that price!
The win pool of HK$97.1 million (£9.14m/€10.56m) for the FWD Chairman's Sprint Prize was the biggest ever wagered on World Pool, with Ka Ying Rising accounting for 97 per cent of all bets struck.
The David Hayes-trained superstar was returned at 1.05 or 1-20, the lowest price available on a single in World Pool, with just HK$2.7m (just over £254,000/€293,000) bet on his seven opponents combined.
The size of the win pool on Sunday dwarfed the previous record of HK$63.8m (around £6m/€6.9m), which was set for Ka Ying Rising's previous outing in the Group 2 Sprint Cup.
Hong Kong Jockey Club CEO Winfried Engelbrecht-Bresges said: "I’ve never seen a tote figure like this, with almost HK$100million in the Win pool and the second favourite returning at odds of 90.50.
“Ka Ying Rising is by far the best horse in the sprinting world that we’ve ever seen. He breaks the track record again. The effortlessness in how he dominates the race against a world-class sprinter in Satono Reve, it is absolutely sensational."
The popularity of Ka Ying Rising as well as a truly international cast for the FWD QEII Cup – in which Romantic Warrior turned away Japan's Masquerade Ball and French-trained Sosie – helped power World Pool turnover on Champions Day to an 18 per cent year-on-year increase, with HK$1.798 billion (around £169.3m/€195.3m) wagered across the eleven races.
HK$97.1 million - Ka Ying Rising shatters World Pool betting turnover record despite cramped odds for Sha Tin romp
Lowering his own course record for six furlongs at Sha Tin might have been the least surprising aspect of Ka Ying Rising's 20th straight success on Sunday, but the world's best sprinter helped shatter another barrier in the process.The win pool of HK$97.1 million (£9.14m/€10.56m) for the FWD Chairman's Sprint Prize was the biggest ever wagered on World Pool, with Ka Ying Rising accounting for 97 per cent of all bets struck.
The David Hayes-trained superstar was returned at 1.05 or 1-20, the lowest price available on a single in World Pool, with just HK$2.7m (just over £254,000/€293,000) bet on his seven opponents combined.
The size of the win pool on Sunday dwarfed the previous record of HK$63.8m (around £6m/€6.9m), which was set for Ka Ying Rising's previous outing in the Group 2 Sprint Cup.
Hong Kong Jockey Club CEO Winfried Engelbrecht-Bresges said: "I’ve never seen a tote figure like this, with almost HK$100million in the Win pool and the second favourite returning at odds of 90.50.
“Ka Ying Rising is by far the best horse in the sprinting world that we’ve ever seen. He breaks the track record again. The effortlessness in how he dominates the race against a world-class sprinter in Satono Reve, it is absolutely sensational."
The popularity of Ka Ying Rising as well as a truly international cast for the FWD QEII Cup – in which Romantic Warrior turned away Japan's Masquerade Ball and French-trained Sosie – helped power World Pool turnover on Champions Day to an 18 per cent year-on-year increase, with HK$1.798 billion (around £169.3m/€195.3m) wagered across the eleven races.
someone on the tv coverage says it costs the HKJK every time he runs because they have to pay out 1.05 for a 1.02-1.03 shot
Here is Pope Cody for reference, you can see the training pattern thru the dates, but it dropped of badly
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Mine pretty similar W woof43 , looking at is r1-3 good, r4 good to soft, r5-8 soft, r9-11 heavy
that's best i can make of it probably some unreliable numbers to come from this meeting.
think the rain had got in by race 4, then a big delay between race 4 and 5 for Japanese race and thunderstorms, progressive rain throiughout.
r4 having it's own going allowance probably too lenient on my scale i reckon going not as close to next 4 races as it seems, that race probably get overrated by me
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I think the difference in race 4 is the fact they ran their sectionals how they normally run them energy distribution wise on a neutral track, my figure in an earlier table had it .027 etc in time which is basically neutral, thru all the sectionals so the track speed was 1.49 sec slow total race, which is maybe the truest figure of those impacted races, as all those other races they all ran their sectionals all over the place , maybe the last race the winner ran with a lot of intent early which brought the Pace D closer to zero .440 and the track speed was 2.5 sec slow odd which was maybe the true figure + pace D adj R8 had .70 odd sec pace D thru their sectionals and the track speed 1.7 seconds slow odd