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[MySportsAI]

Have you asked the person who started this thread MySportsAI and not try to take over the direction of this thread

I am not trying to take over the thread and as for the ownership I would say the people who contribute regularly are the owners they keep the show on the road. Whatever consensus comes forward I would hope that it will influence the direction organically

 

[Chesham]

So you have not asked markfinn

 

[MySportsAI]

So you have not asked markfinn

Nope

 

[Chesham]

I am not trying to take over the thread and as for the ownership I would say the people who contribute regularly are the owners they keep the show on the road. Whatever consensus comes forward I would hope that it will influence the direction organically

Surely it is you trying to steer the thread in the direction that you want and as far as I can see the thread has developed organically by itself.
You tried to start your own “Wisdom Of The Crowd “ thread and failed and it appears that you are just trying to use this thread to achieve that goal.

 

[MySportsAI]

Surely it is you trying to steer the thread in the direction that you want and as far as I can see the thread has developed organically by itself.
You tried to start your own “Wisdom Of The Crowd “ thread and failed and it appears that you are just trying to use this thread to achieve that goal.

It appears that way to you Chesham

 

[markfinn]

Perhaps they are lets find out

Think they are ( it was started as advert for the forum a way for new members to start posting without any fear of being judged - the common thread will still remain for those are not interested in the culling of their choices - all you need to do is tart a new thread

Race -
Poster -
Choices -

that can be run separately but along side - can it scraped ? does it need scraping there are only about 9 race posts max per day

An aside - I would ask that ALL forum members not use my name ( or anyone else's without permission) in their petty EGO politics - I am not a cats paw , I don't do it and don't believe anyone else should - we have had this nonsense in Open - Inner and The BLOG lost loads of decent posters - please keep you disagreements private - I doubt many are interested in battles of EGO maniacs.

When Joined here I believed it was manners , just like in real life (once read) to acknowledge the originator of a comment or in this case a post - doesnt happen so much these days, I know kids think differently to older folk but that doesnt make them right.

 

[tacker]

Well you would still be able to participate, what I have suggested does not change anything in terms of playing. Those who would like to see if a wisdom of crowds algorithm could produce something would tag their selection, those that do not would simply input as normal

Excellent idea MySportsAI but all i'm saying is this is the wrong approach, what i think you might want to try is a kind of nap of the day or bet of the day where anyone can post any horse they want rather than a race chosen by another person.
If then you can find something worth exploring for the forum as a whole, then who could argue with that ?

 

[MySportsAI]

Think they are ( it was started as advert for the forum a way for new members to start posting without any fear of being judged - the common thread will still remain for those are not interested in the culling of their choices - all you need to do is tart a new thread

Race -
Poster -
Choices -

that can be run separately but along side - can it scraped ? does it need scraping there are only about 9 race posts max per day

An aside - I would ask that ALL forum members not use my name ( or anyone elses without permission) in their petty EGO politics - I am not a cats paw , I dont do it and dont believe anyone else should - we have had this nonsense in Open - Inner and The BLOG lost loads od decent posters - please keep you disagreements private - I doubt many are interested in battles of EGO maniacs.

When Joined here I believed it was manners , just like in real life (once read) to acknowledge the originator of a comment or in this case a post - doesnt happen so much these days, I know kids think differently to older folk but that doesnt make them right.

What caused the latest interaction was my starting a thread to find out if people prefer NH or flat or both. The reason for finding this out is that the results could be useful in going forward. I will post more about this later. As for the consensus WOC thing I dont think that is a starter for a variety of reasons or at least not on this thread. As people know I am a regular contributor to this thread and have no intention of hijacking it as one poster suggested

 

[tacker]

3.43 asc....FASOL
Appears to prefer the quicker ground and 2m rather than the 2.5m lto where he travelled quite well until getting tired, blinkers on first time might help but clearly a difficult race to pick the bones out of.

 

[markfinn]

These high prize hurdles - I think we can take on fact that they are in to win it.

Horse	Age	Score with possible improvement	Score w/o allowance	Win %	Fair Odds	Win Strike Rate	Hcp W/R (2026 · 2025)
Gibbs Island	5	57.5	57.5	7.93%​	12.6	15.00%	0/4 · 1/3
Morning Mayhem	5	57.5	47.5	7.93%​	12.6	20.00%	4/14 · 1/4
Nap Hand (IRE)	6	57.5	57.5	7.93%​	12.6	18.00%	2/7 · 0/3
Brendas Asking (IRE)	8	52.5	52.5	7.24%​	13.8	20.00%	1/2 · 0/0
Trustintimes	5	50	50	6.90%​	14.5	44.00%	0/1 · 1/2
Williethebuilder (IRE)	7	47.5	47.5	6.55%​	15.3	22.00%	2/5 · 1/6
Emerald Time	5	47.5	47.5	6.55%​	15.3	27.00%	3/6 · 0/0
Moveit Like Minnie (IRE)	9	45	45	6.21%​	16.1	21.00%	1/5 · 0/7
Fasol	7	45	45	6.21%​	16.1	14.00%	1/8 · 0/2
Gower Prince	8	42.5	42.5	5.86%​	17.1	13.00%	1/2 · 0/2
Rightsotom (GER)	7	40	40	5.52%​	18.1	13.00%	0/1 · 0/2
Indemnity (IRE)	6	37.5	37.5	5.17%​	19.3	20.00%	1/4 · 3/6
Hamlets Night (IRE)	5	37.5	37.5	5.17%​	19.3	20.00%	0/4 · 0/0
Zillow	6	37.5	37.5	5.17%​	19.3	19.00%	0/7 · 2/4
Messerschmitt (IRE)	5	35	35	4.83%​	20.7	10.00%	0/3 · 0/3
Parchment (FR)	4	35	35	4.83%​	20.7	0.00%	0/0 · 0/0

Gibb Island Ref win: 11 Oct 25 Chepstow 2m½f Hcp Hurdle Cl2, OR 132, 11-12 (Sheppard). OR 1 BELOW win (Adj −3). Weight 7lb below win (Adj −9) = 10 wt pts. Ref win Class 2 = same class, no ★. C: no Ascot runs (C?). D: 2m win Haydock Feb 25. Last 6 runs all beaten 6.7L+ (Chepstow 9 Oct 32L, weakened 2 out). Lacey 14d 0/5, last win 41d; Sheppard 14d 0/8, last win 41d, both fail 28-day test. Prize: last 3 £26k/£46k/£62k, no value drop. Seasonality NH Oct 5yo: Plus.

Morning Mayhem Ref win: 29 Aug 26 Cartmel 2m1f Hcp Hurdle Cl3, OR 118, 11-7 (Reed). OR 10 above win (check). Weight 5lb below win (Adj −7) = 10 wt pts. Since: 2nd Market Rasen (hd), 2nd Chepstow Cl2 (4L), 6th Cheltenham 2m4f (7.3L). Ref Class 3, today Class 2 = rise. C: no Ascot runs (C?). D: 2m wins Fakenham x2, Uttoxeter. Scholfield 14d 0/14 (2 places), last win 33d, fails 28-day test; Reed 14d 2/12, last win 3d. Prize: last 3 £13k/£26k/£18k, no value drop. Seasonality NH Oct 5yo: Plus.

Nap Hand (IRE) Ref win: 19 Oct 26 Plumpton 2m Hcp Hurdle Cl4, OR 117, 12-0 (F Gordon). OR 3 above win (check). Weight 20lb below win = 10 wt pts. 2026: also won Perth Cl2 Aug, 2nd Cartmel Cl2 Jun. Ref Class 4, today Class 2 = rise of two classes. C: no Ascot runs (C?). D: 2m wins Plumpton, Perth. C Gordon 14d 2/11, last win 12d; F Gordon 14d 2/6, last

The trends page covers 28 runnings, 1997-2025. All of this is background only; none of it is in the scoring.

Trends - just seen this button on HRB
Age of winner

• 5yo: 11 winners. 6yo: 10. That’s 21 of 28 (75%).
• 7yo: 4 (the last two were 2022 and 2023). 4yo: 2. 8yo: 1, in 2005 at Lingfield. No 9yo has won.
• In the last 10 runnings: five 5yos, three 6yos, two 7yos.

Weight carried

• 9 of the last 10 winners carried 11-1 or more. The exception was 2023, at 10-11 on soft ground.
• No winner has carried more than 11-12, so no one has won under 12-0.

Trainers and jockeys with a runner today

• Chris Gordon: 2 wins (2022 and 2024), the second with Freddie Gordon riding. Today they run Nap Hand.
• Joe Tizzard and Brendan Powell won it last year. Today they run Rightsotom.
• Jonjo O’Neill won in 2021 (Gower Prince today). Emma Lavelle won in 2001 and 2010 (Indemnity). Paul Nicholls won in 2006 and 2011 (Fasol).

Going

• Mostly Good. It’s only been run on Good to Firm three times (2003, 2006, 2007).

Today’s runners that fit both age (5-6yo) and weight (11-1+):
Indemnity (11-10), Gibbs Island (11-5), Messerschmitt (11-4), Hamlets Night (11-4), Morning Mayhem (11-2) and Trustintimes (11-1).

• Nap Hand fits on age but carries 10-8.
• Williethebuilder is 7 and would be the first winner to carry 12-0.

One more fact: every winner returned 14/1 or shorter, and the last 10 were all 12/1 or shorter. That’s market data, so I’ve kept it out of the runner list above.

Gibbs Island - Morning Mayhem - Nap Hand

 

[pawras]

Expecting participants on this thread to approach it in some formal manner isn't going to work and will likely put people off, both existing and potential newbies.

My anecdotal view is that where there is a strong consensus of opinion it leads to higher positive outcomes.

I dunno why there's such a level of back and forth on this, idle hands, there's nothing to stop anyone recording and testing that hypothesis , either publicly or privately

I feel going down the route of screen scrapers would be rather gilding the lily given the relatively low number of selections each race, plus people are going to post how it suits them

A straight forward spreadsheet would suffice, with each row the selected race, then two sets of columns for the overall top selection and 2nd top selection among the group making selections that day. If you also wanted the more granular detail there could be top and 2nd selection columns for participants
see basic mock up below. (well if graphic inserts work)
Once you have it recorded like that you can than analyse it further as desired

Overall 1st selection

Overall 2nd selection

Total Bets

Total Bets

Total Wins

Total Wins

Strike %

Strike %

Profit/Loss

Profit/Loss

ROI%

ROI%

Date

Time

Course

Horse

BSP -2%

Fin Pos

Win Or Loss

Bet

Return

Profit

Running Total

Horse

BSP -2%

Fin Pos

Win Or Loss

Bet

Return

Profit

Running Total

 

[pawras]

what's the issue with inserting screenshots or is it just me?

 

[MySportsAI]

what's the issue with inserting screenshots or is it just me?

No I can no longer insert images either

 

[mlmrob]

When the fun stops, stop.

26-28 WINNERS CAME FROM TOP 5 IN THE BETTING.
27-28 WINNERS HAD 8 OR LESS RACES OVER THE PAST 365 DAYS

15 of the last 16 have been won with the last loaing year in 2016.

Trustintimnes, Messerschmitt and Gibbs Island qualify.

I will take Messerschmitt who cost new connections 100k. The prize of 32.5k will go some way to getting their money back.