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Handicap Class Droppers

Basilette will have cheered you up.
A little. Though as the only single selection bet a reminder that big priced winners in 3 horse books usually are not as profitable as it appears and it’s a false sense of security unless you get it right 75% of the time. Which I’m not.
 
I think there is a serious point, there, Tufnel Tufnel, and I wish BDW had given more book examples.

There is surely a difference when a race can be reduced to two (or exceptionally more), each of whom would be a bet were the other not running, from one where none is quite the full deal but the winner seems likely to come from two, three or four. In the latter case one would be backing horses none of which one would back if the others weren't running, in the hope that two or three who look stronger than the rest but who individually have flaws will include the winner.
 
Aintree 1:50 Another case of a horse having prep runs on the flat here and All In You is the clear choice here. The ex French Skelton horse could of course be another horse his training may have transformed into a well handicapped runner, but the horse it beat twice in France and the one before those races have yet to win a NH race themselves. I'm backing All In You.
 
Quite why O'Farrell decided to not make the running as last time is questionable there at Fontwell. The winner is no mug and had a race just 3 days ago over fences. Mild Magic could easily have dictated the pace again and made it more of a test. Annoying ride.
 
Although it's a novice handicap hurdle there doesn't appear to be many dark horse runners here in the Gowran Park 2:55 and Papagei fits the HH method. So with a low weight I'm backing this one having missed another low weighted runner earlier.
 
What the hell has Amberelli been doing so far? Champion jockey booked on what appeared to be an iffy proposition. This game feels so rigged sometimes.
 
Today feels like another dead loss. The one horse I posted as a class/form horse dropping in class bolted in and these handicap hurdle horses have either come up a little short or been stuffed.
 
Upon further review of the HH VDW 6 examples, there is perhaps something in the previous class and form of those who beat each example last time out in tandem with the class of race they all ran in.

The only time a key horse doesn't seem to hold many answers is when the selection actually won last time out and did so in a suitable manner.

Yesterday I had a shortlist for several of the handicap hurdles but couldn't find clear selections. It was no surprise to see Tune A Box drop in class and win or indeed Paul Nolan's horse at Naas in the handicap hurdle there. I'd be surprised if that yard hadn't got their Xmas expenses for this year and next year based on recent touches landed.

But I think it's very important to keep in mind class of horse, class of race and class of opposition in previous races. Lot's of low weighted horses in handicaps ran 2nd or 3rd LTO but they don't all win and it depends on what they ran 2nd or 3rd to related to the present opposition.

At Carlisle today 2:27 I have a shortlist of 2 with Circuit Breaker and Madame La Papillon. CB has been busy on the flat running well enough from a mark in the 70s but MLP has switched stables since a very good 3rd in a higher class Mares event at Kelso. Only 1 lb higher here for the Hammond/Smith stable and against geldings. This race is a qualifier though so some horses in here will only be looking to get into the qualifying places for further down the road. But the range of weights in this handicap is very compressed so I suspect the higher weighted runners will not be unduly inconvenienced by this factor.

At the prices I'm going to back both Circuit Breaker and Madame La Papillon.
I'm a little wary of Gaelic Glow who has caught the eye of the stewards several times. But it might just be that the horse isn't very good and the last race it ran in wasn't really very deep in opposition and no winners have yet been produced form it. We will see.

Punchestown 2:38 Born De Ceres, Shirzan and Belle The Tigress are the 3 on my shortlist for this. The latter 2 are a filly and a mare and currently feature at the head of the market whilst Born Ce Ceres is 10/1 and having his first in a handicap after a 2nd LTO in a maiden hurdle.

BTT is having a first run in 467 days but De Bromhead is obviously one of the top trainers in Ireland and the handicap she had a go at in her last run was a much better race than this featuring better form horses. Given the prices I think I can make a worthwhile book here and I'll be a bit surprised and disappointed if these 3 don't cover the winner. Obviously the top weight is from another handicap king trainer who if he bounced back could be dangerous. I've never really forgiven that horse since coming over to the UK at Ludlow in a maiden hurdle with a clear cut form chance but drifiting out to 5/1 and getting nailed bu a no hoper on the run in causing me to drop a large wad of cash that looked like becoming a lot more through most of the race.

Anyway, Born De Ceres, Shirzan and Belle The Tigress are my 3 horse book.
 
Punchestown 3:45 Trixaboutmaisie, Spanish John and Gaelic Des Chastys are my 3 I'm backing in this.

I definitely need to see an improvement in the strike rate for these dutch and 3 horse books otherwise I'm going to have to just leave a race if I can't find one or two with confidence.

Let's see what happens today.
 
It's fairly well known situation that a significant percentage of handicap races are won by horses dropped from another handicap race worth more money to the winner.

But how does that work out on an individual trainer basis. After all, there's quite a range of trainers in both their skill and resources.

I ran the numbers on Andrew Balding. A very good trainer especially with handicappers and one I've personally found a decent amount of winners from his runners in the last few years.

From 2018 until the end of 2023 his runners that were dropped from a higher value handicap race to a lower one showed he had 1,008 runners dropped and 143 winners or 14.2%.

And 41% of his runners were actually dropped in race prize (class) next time out.

But for 2024 and 2025 his strike rate went up to 20.5% with 85 such winners from 414 runners and just 40.2 % runners being dropped. You'd also have made a whopping 5 pts from backing them all blind.

Surely this is down to him having better horses now, not just his skill as a trainer, excellent as it is.

If we compare him to another handicap king William Haggas, who's obviously been training a lot longer than Andrew, it's interesting.
2018 - 26 from 101 at 25.7% and LSP +25.7 points 39.8% of runners dropped.
2019 - 47 from 197 at 23.9% and LSP +14.7 points 39.1% dropped.
2020 - 14 from 79 at 17.7% and LSP +2.7 points 34.7 % dropped. (Some sort of crazy stay at home craze swept the country this year)
2021 - 19 from 80 at 23.7% and LSP +22.5 points just 27.3% dropped.
2022 - 23 from 98 at 23.5% and LSP -15.9 points 33% dropped.
2023 to 2025 - 70 from 345 at 20.3% and LSP -7.1 points 38.9% dropped.

There's been a definite decline in the success of Haggas horses dropping in class. Or to be more precise, the rate has gone down by about 15% of what it was, but also the prices of the winners has been reduced eroding any profits into losses.

But here's an interesting stat. The Haggas stable between 2018 and 2023 had a 16.7% strike rate for handicappers going UP in prize money from one handicap to another showing a 152 point loss from 111 winner out of 663 runners. But in 2024 and 2025 they had a 25% strike rate with 63 winners from 251 runners and a LSP in both years totally 59.1 points.

Where as Balding has had a 12.3% strike rate for such horses since 2018 to 2025 with a big -375.8 point loss.

Conclusion has to be that success or otherwise for trainers largely depends on what ammo they have in their yard, but if they have the right candidate both these yards know pretty much what they're doing.
Be careful with figures for Haggas in 2025 it was a stellar year for his handicap runners - you will find the results in 2026 are down in some categories by as much as 50%
 
Well what a pile of cat crap that Carlisle race turned out to be. Madame La Papillon ran like a lethargic hack and Circuit Breaker cut out before they got serious too.
 
And another shocking result at Punchestown. Sea Eagle beaten running in a maiden hurdle recently even though the horse had a rating of 118. Dropped an unusually large 4 lb just for that beating and what do you know it wins doing handsprings next outing in a handicap. The trainers in Ireland run rings round the handicapper and the stewards. What real basis was there to drop the horse 4 lb for being beaten in a non handicap by 3 horses without a rating?

I'm getting fed up with it really.

Even if the 3:45 result goes my way I'll still be down on the day.

The question arises again. If VDW was all for being restrained and selective why did he feel the need to operate several different approaches and illustrate with a number of bets within days that says anything but being selective and restrained?

What was it he said? "Just a couple of reasonable bets per week make for contentment"

Doesn't marry up with 32 bets in the first 3-4 weeks of a flat season to me.
 
You really have got to be an expert in spot the fiddle to find some of these winners.

Yet another horse out the rear and never dangerous last time on the back of some woeful efforts suddenly knows how to win. The phrase "towards rear" must be used more times in hurdle runner's form in Ireland than any other.
 
And another shocking result at Punchestown. Sea Eagle beaten running in a maiden hurdle recently even though the horse had a rating of 118. Dropped an unusually large 4 lb just for that beating and what do you know it wins doing handsprings next outing in a handicap. The trainers in Ireland run rings round the handicapper and the stewards. What real basis was there to drop the horse 4 lb for being beaten in a non handicap by 3 horses without a rating?

I'm getting fed up with it really.

Even if the 3:45 result goes my way I'll still be down on the day.

The question arises again. If VDW was all for being restrained and selective why did he feel the need to operate several different approaches and illustrate with a number of bets within days that says anything but being selective and restrained?

What was it he said? "Just a couple of reasonable bets per week make for contentment"

Doesn't marry up with 32 bets in the first 3-4 weeks of a flat season to me.

re: Sea Eagle - drops of 4lb or more are quite rare (just under 6%) in Irish NH Tufnel Tufnel
reckon that 118 from that Perth race is a misprint or a provisional "first UK run" rating by the BHA
don't see why they would have to though as it was a Non-Hcap Maiden Hurdle
What's it showing on irishracing.com for that race ??

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Had Sea Eagle running to an OR of 119 at Tramore 6 months ago. Still young and unexposed over hurdles. Has gone well at the trip/ground and reunited with a claimer he's gone well for in the past. Entitled to that today imo.
 
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