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General Election Petition

"Who can we trust and vote for in the future. ?

Spot on, and of course the first part of the sentence is key.

Every new leader of one of the main parties provides an occasion for hope, though in recent years that hope has not lasted long (though usually a bit longer than with the present incumbent).

I know nothing of Ms Badenoch, so it will be interesting to see how she does as leader of the opposition. Hopefully she won't be as hypocritical as Johnson, as impatient as Truss, as dangerous as Corbyn and Sunak or as greedy as Starmer.
 
when they decided to have a state pension they made it a benefit in the legislation to safe gaurd them self for future changes and thats why officially by law it is a benifit, all though it feels like it should be a right for us who worked all our life i never recieved anything of them now i have pension and tiny pension that gets taxed shocking i know.
But i have came to the conclusion it dosnt matter whos in power there all the same lying cheats them self.
I don't think it has ever been classed as a benefit gerry gerry for the very reason benefits can be "means tested", state pensions are based on a system of having paid in via National Insurance for a number of years roughly about 35 but that money isn't set aside for state pension payments, just another tax.
 
I don't think it has ever been classed as a benefit gerry gerry for the very reason benefits can be "means tested", state pensions are based on a system of having paid in via National Insurance for a number of years roughly about 35 but that money isn't set aside for state pension payments, just another tax.
State Pension "The state pension is a benefit payment available to the majority of people when they reach the current State Pension age. It is a universal, non-means tested benefit available to all, so long as they have made the requisite National Insurance contributions or credits."
 
Went through 2 Million at 10:52 am.

It's starting to speed up again.

Mike.
It doesn't matter if it gets to 60 Million. The only things that can initiate an election at this stage is the government losing a vote of no confidence or the prime minister calling an GE. I think you'll agree neither of these things is likely to happen and whoever started the petition is wasting their time.
 
I think the only thing that would need pass would be if it went over half the voting public then the will of the people have spoken and it would be impossible for any goverment to fight it .
 
when they decided to have a state pension they made it a benefit in the legislation to safe gaurd them self for future changes and thats why officially by law it is a benifit, all though it feels like it should be a right for us who worked all our life i never recieved anything of them now i have pension and tiny pension that gets taxed shocking i know.
But i have came to the conclusion it dosnt matter whos in power there all the same lying cheats them self.
This has been a problem for many years and unless you can get every politician to take a lie detector you will never change what happens !
 
I think the only thing that would need pass would be if it went over half the voting public then the will of the people have spoken and it would be impossible for any goverment to fight it .
How many who signed it do not live in the UK ?
I only ask as I saw something about Elon Musk signing it !!
 
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