Yeah, using the live odds nearer the off was another way to reduce the shortlist further. If you had the time before each race then that would cut out one or two more from each race aswell as form study of courseNo not really anything to do with bower at all but its something i noticed on alot of past results over last few weeks checking it.
And it seems to cut it down to less horses that you give in each race in general as one of the things i noticed is very few win in double digit prices
so once i have maybe 4 or deff 5 max thats more than enough.
Any more than that i am by passing race but ideally hoping for about 3 in race and very few races you get one then there worth a look at for even putting together in multies but wont happen often .
like the race you have gave at hereford 11 55 i have that down to three horses.famoso,rockinastorm, maasai warrior.
And the 2 where i have only one are coastguard station 12 15 don and western zephyr 2 13 here.

Thanks for this, another interesting angle that I will try, may also add best sp on the going.You can narrow the field further by using the Prize Money from the last two races and the odds of the horse in its last race.
Your 11.55
View attachment 141044
The orange highlighted cells are those that have a have run for Prize Money higher than todays in their last two races.
In the LR prize column you will see four pink cells, these are the horses who run for the most prize money last time, in this case I highlight the highest three.
In the LR odds column, the three highlighted in pink are the horses with the three lowest odds last time out.
Only two horses were highlighted in the three columns.
ThanksYou can narrow the field further by using the Prize Money from the last two races and the odds of the horse in its last race.
Your 11.55
View attachment 141044
The orange highlighted cells are those that have a have run for Prize Money higher than todays in their last two races.
In the LR prize column you will see four pink cells, these are the horses who run for the most prize money last time, in this case I highlight the highest three.
In the LR odds column, the three highlighted in pink are the horses with the three lowest odds last time out.
Only two horses were highlighted in the three columns.
Yeh I really thought it was going to hang on, so much for the favs!felt sorry for il rondoto there although had first two.
Nice 33/1 plCe
Bad day using my Bower stats,hope I’m doing it rightNice 33/1 plCe
Can I just check how you do it and compare with what I do,I’m going wrong somewhere. 10 or more runners, ( I don’t bother with dividing field by 2 ans checking said horse is within a few pounds of top weight, is that important?) - score horses with points on weight difference from top weight, ( using weight or same process using OR)- take sp and do the same giving points rating on difference from shortest sp- add both together and lower score is best. Thanks.5/6 today from the shortlist. A neck away from making it 6/6. 76/107 overall. Still aiming for 80% hopefully heading the right way.
I think my mistake was not taking the sp and giving ratings from shortest upwards. I just added sp to weight or OR RATING.Can I just check how you do it and compare with what I do,I’m going wrong somewhere. 10 or more runners, ( I don’t bother with dividing field by 2 ans checking said horse is within a few pounds of top weight, is that important?) - score horses with points on weight difference from top weight, ( using weight or same process using OR)- take sp and do the same giving points rating on difference from shortest sp- add both together and lower score is best. Thanks.
| time | track | horse | Bower Rating |
13:10:00 | Navan | Shannon Royale (IRE) | 7 |
13:10:00 | Navan | Carnfunnock (IRE) | 14 |
13:10:00 | Navan | Rioga Choice (IRE) | 16 |
13:10:00 | Navan | Harvard Guy | 19 |
13:10:00 | Navan | Lord Erskine (IRE) | 19 |
13:10:00 | Navan | Clarens (IRE) | 22 |
14:10:00 | Carlisle | Prairie Dancer (IRE) | 4 |
14:10:00 | Carlisle | Howlingmadmurdock (IRE) | 5 |
14:10:00 | Carlisle | Ramo (FR) | 20 |
14:10:00 | Carlisle | Omar Maretti (IRE) | 24 |
14:10:00 | Carlisle | Schalke | 25 |
I use the OR and timeform betting forecast. Difference in OR from the top rated then add that too the forecast odds. I.e. the top OR in a race on say 100, horse A has an official rating of 98. 100-98 = 2 then the betting forecast odds are 5/1, so 2+5 =7 that would be the Bower Rating. Do that for the whole race, try eliminate around 50% of the field, that's the basics of it.Can I just check how you do it and compare with what I do,I’m going wrong somewhere. 10 or more runners, ( I don’t bother with dividing field by 2 ans checking said horse is within a few pounds of top weight, is that important?) - score horses with points on weight difference from top weight, ( using weight or same process using OR)- take sp and do the same giving points rating on difference from shortest sp- add both together and lower score is best. Thanks.
| time | track | horse | Bower Rating |
14:25:00 | Musselburgh | Lihyan (IRE) | 4 |
14:25:00 | Musselburgh | Darkest Day (IRE) | 11 |
14:25:00 | Musselburgh | Copper Fox | 12 |
14:25:00 | Musselburgh | We Gotta Getaway (IRE) | 20 |
| time | track | horse | Bower Rating |
15:10:00 | Fakenham | Copshill Lad (IRE) | 3 |
15:10:00 | Fakenham | Edison Kent (IRE) | 8 |
15:10:00 | Fakenham | The Wise Traveller (IRE) | 14 |
15:10:00 | Fakenham | Hillfinch | 23 |
15:10:00 | Fakenham | William Ewart (IRE) | 24 |
15:50:00 | Wincanton | Casts Tasha (IRE) | 4 |
15:50:00 | Wincanton | Edeiffs Rock | 7 |
15:50:00 | Wincanton | My Lady Phoenix | 9 |
15:50:00 | Wincanton | Mairis Icon | 12 |
15:50:00 | Wincanton | Miss Fedora (IRE) | 12 |