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8th October - Chris Eubanks Jr v Conor Benn

Have to say looking forward to this catch weight fight , not only are they two good British fighters , the nostalgic side of me remembers their dads battling it out all those years ago and if we get anything like those two fights then we're in for a treat. On paper this looks to be a bit of a mis match if i'm being honest Chris Eubanks Jr (34 Fights - 32 Wins (23 KOs) - 2 Losses) is bigger and alot more experienced but Conor Benn (21 Fights - 21 Wins (14 KOs) - 0 Losses) is a talented boxer with fast hands and a knockout punch , but whether he can use those to good effect against the more experienced man has yet to be seen
Benn comes into this as the reigning WBA continental champion (since 2018) , and on the back of a dominant display against the former IBO Welterweight champion Chris Van Heerden who he stopped in the second round by TKO. Equally dominant and impressive was Eubanks Jr in his last fight where he scored a UD over Liam Williams , that was a masterly display imho and he knocked Williams down 4 times during the fight , and for me one of his best fights to date. Eubanks Jr has lost twice in his career , to George Groves and Billy Joe Saunders , both great fighters and no shame at all in losing to the likes of either of them. I do think that he hasnt achieved perhaps what people expected of him though , perhaps thats just me though i'm not sure. Benn has yet to taste defeat but as yet he hasnt met anyone of the calibre of Groves or Saunders.
Its gonna be interesting to see how Eubanks Jr copes with the weight drop , in the press conference i watched the other day he said because of this he'd only be fighting at 60% (rather than 100%) , but thats all he'd need to beat Benn ... have to admit i did wonder after that statement was he getting his excuses in early just in case he lost the fight. And part of me watched it wondering if he's perhaps taking this a bit lightly and expecting to walk over / through Benn , he's a pro so probably not and probably just for the cameras etc but i know that if he doesnt take Conor Benn seriously then he could end up paying the price. And if he loses i dont think his career will recover i honestly dont so i think he's gonna go at it properly , or i hope so.
If Eubanks Jr comes into this at the top of his game , everything seems stacked in his favour , and i can see him over powering Benn in the early rounds and possibly boxing from range to try and outscore him but as i said earlier Benn is quick , and does have power in his punches and despite the fact he's knocked out so many opponents theres more to him than just that , he is aggressive and explosive but he uses his head , he pickes his punches and then when he see's his opponent is hurt he unleashes , Eubanks Jr has a decent chin though and has never been stopped so whether Benn has the power to stop him is debatable.
On paper i can't see Eubanks Jr losing but its not on paper its in a ring and anything could happen lol .. Saying that i think Eubanks Jr is going to have to much for Benn , although i wouldnt and couldnt discount Benn at all especially if Eubanks Jr doesnt bring his A game , like i say i just think he's too experienced , and too strong

Eubanks Jr to win
 
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Cheers S Sandhog , like I said in the write up I wouldnt discount Benn at all .. but in all honesty Eubanks Jr should be winning this one with alot of things in his favour

Saying all that i personally would like to see Benn win lol
 
@Sean, I think my Benn bet hinges entirely on whether Eubanks gasses , and Benn can continue in a strong manner.
Not sure that's happened much, and taking Benn's enthusiasm on trust to endure in later rounds, if we get that far.

Dunno about cuts issues. Got a feeling Eubank will try to cut him up with a few forearms and elbows. On the other hand, Benn may give him a few wild low shots.
Interesting contest, imo.

Btw, have you got anything about Eggington?
He seems to be one of the hardest, all-action merchants going. :D
 
Im not sure about Eubank Jr gassing out , in his last fight he looked strong and fit throughout the fight but the weight drop i think could be an issue and that may well help Benn , which is why im thinking that Eubank may well try to box at range and pick him off and try to pick up points

Havent heard anything about Sam Eggington lately , beat the Polish guy a couple of months ago , for the IBO Light Middle belt , he's pretty active and usually fights at least twice a year so i'm guessing that he may well be out again towards the end of the year as that was his first fight of 2022 , not sure though , he's good to watch and been involved in some good fights
 
S Sandhog , i should add that Billy Joe Saunders is backing Benn as well (so you're in good company) and he beat Eubanks Jr as you know , like me he thinks the weight could play a part , he also said that if this was a year later from now then Benn would be 100% the winner and i tend to agree with that , he lacks experience and one or two decent opponents where he learns and has to up his game would be exactly what he needs . Saunders thinks that Eubanks dropping the weight at the age he is wont be good , and he also said that Conor Benn wants it more and i have to agree with that second part definatley , from what i've seen in the press conferences etc .. he really wants to put the record straight , i just hope both are 100% fit and ready , and up for it , if they are this could be one helluva fight
 
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Excellent post, @Sean. Thank you.

Joe can't stand the Eubanks, and he did find a way to beat him.

Nobody ever goes into a fight 100% right, as every bit of training, and every fight, leaves ya just a bit more fkd up, imo. :D
Only afterwards, do the excuse merchants come out with the injuries they were carrying.
 
S Sandhog , Maybe not 100% but you've trained and focussed on that one bout and with that particular opponent in mind , and bar any injuries that may have happened during that period , you're gonna be as near 100% as you're gonna get imho . I dunno training makes me feel better , and the fights used to give me such a buzz like a natural high (win or lose) , if your training leaves you a bit more fcked up then you're doing it wrong :D though , fights can leave you physically and mentally drained (and overtime i think that could possibly count against some people) , I've always said that as well as the physical training you have to be mentally right , any doubts or 'what ifs' then you're already on the back foot , you have to be positive and believe in yourself ,the people around you etc ..so a positive mental attitude is just as important as the physical training basically (bit long winded werent it lol) , and as i said earlier i dunno whether Eubanks Jr has got that for this fight , with the I'm only gonna be at 60% , but that'll be enough' comment it just made me think as i said he's preparing his excuses (obviously i could be wrong and probably am) but theres no such negative comments from Benn or his team ..
 
Superb write-up @Sean and excellent points made by you and S Sandhog.

I had Eubanks down as a cert given his record plus the fact that he is a consumate pro, so assumed the weight issue would have been properly addressed.

Bugger, reading the above I'm not so sure now and 1.5 Eubanks doesn't look so great !!!
 
Cheers T TonCon :handgestures-thumbup:

I'm like you , i thought Eubanks Jr should win this , but there is just that niggling doubt in the back of mind that the weight issue could play a part , and that it could possibly effect his overall performance , it shouldnt , but it might , over the years you've seen so many decent boxers who've dropped in weight (or gone up) and its been there undoing .. i still think he should have too much for Benn , but you never know and Benn's no mug , if he'd of fought better quality opposition in his last few fights i wouldnt be favouring Eubanks Jr quite like i am i have to be honest . But he's eager , keen , has a good positive outlook and obviously has a punchers chance (but like i said in the write up Eubanks has never been stopped , been up against quality fighters and his chins held up .. so far !)
 
Saturday 15th October - Deontay Wilder v Robert Helenius

And onto some heavyweight action , can't beat the heavyweights as they're so unpredictable at times , one punch can alter the whole fight .. but this one doesnt get my pulses racing it has to be said. Although both of them can bang so it could well be an entertaining fight.
This is Deontay Wilders (45 Fights - 42 Wins (41 KOs) - 2 Losses - 1 Draw) first foray back into the ring since the back to back losses to Tyson Fury and i do wonder if they may have affected him somehow , as they were decent battles and he gave them his all , coming up short admittedly but he did prove in the last one that he definatley had heart. I've never rated him highly if im being honest , technically speaking he' probably wouldnt make my top 10 in the heavy weight division at the moment but he does possess that punch as we all know , and if he lands with it then nine times out of ten the opponents out. Robert Helenius (34 Fights - 31 Wins (20 KOs) - 3 Losses) isnt too shabby when it comes to knocking people out either it has to be said , comes into this following two bouts against Adam Kownacki (the last one of these was on the undercard of Tyson v Wilder 3 incidentally) . Kownacki was undefeated and the favourite going into the initial fight but Helenius pulled off a surprise by stopping him in the the fourth round , a year later the pair met again and Helenius again came away victorious , dominating and over powering Kownacki through out the 6 rounds until it was stopped.
From what i can see Wilder is gonna start as a big favourite for this fight , but i think people could be under estimating The Nordic Nightmare here , Wilder hasnt won since 2019 when he beat Luis Ortiz , stopping him with a 7th round KO (but the judges had Ortiz ahead on the cards at that point) and he's been through three gruelling fights with Fury , and for me he kinda got exposed for what he is , a mediocre heavyweight boxer whose gonna struggle against someone who can box well , but as i pointed out already he has solid knock out power which he's used to good effect and thats whats saved him imho. Helenius , when he's fully match fit , isnt a bad boxer , and whilst he doesnt possess the power of Wilder he can definatley hit hard.
I think alot of it depends on Wilders frame of mind , and whether those three fights against Fury have taken their toll , if he comes into this fine and dandy then i think he wins , if on the other hand he comes into this with doubts then he's probably in for what could be a long night. Helenius tends to start slowly , but uses his jab well and can counterpunch , in his wins over Kownacki he looked slightly more aggressive than his previous fights and if he comes into this confident and in the same vein an upset could be on the cards.
As it is though we'll just have to wait and see on the night , but as things stand at the moment i think Wilder wins

Wilder To Win (By KO/TKO , rounds 5-7)
 
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Thanks, @Sean.

I've watched him agin Chisora now. Not very impressed; thought Chisora gave him a decent match.
His appearance and apparent age seems to vary greatly over the years. Sometime:Ds he looks younger!

Not sure he's fit enough or agile enough to go far.
 
Yeah agreed S Sandhog , he's an okay boxer like i said , and he can bang which is one of the requirements of the HW division lol .. but he's not up there with the best of em. He has a tendency to hold his hands low sometimes which could prove his undoing against such a big puncher as Wilder
 
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I don't think I'll be having a wager on hime, but, what I couldn't help noticing from the Chisora fight was that neither of them seemed marked up much. ???
Maybe some of those shots weren't as heavy as they seemed?? :)

In another bout, with some wnkr from New Jersey, the opponent had an eye well swollen, and, ended up getting disqualified for hitting low.

Whatever, nice to have a few fights to look forward too.
 
TonCon said:
@Sean. Got to agree with S Sandhog, he can bang but his defence is wanting and against a real pro - which Wilder is - he would be very vulnerable, plus Wilder can bang as well.

I'm with you, Sandhog and the bookies on this
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I basically said that T TonCon , he has a tendency to drop his hands and he is slow which i failed to mention . Neither of these are top ten imo , Helenius has improved but he is getting on , Wilder has that punch and thats it really , he's not a top quality boxer as such.
If they both come out swinging i dont think this is gonna last long , and Wilder is probably the hardest hitter in the division at the moment .
Give me the days of Tyson , Holyfield , Lewis .. etc
 
Sean said:
I basically said that T TonCon , he has a tendency to drop his hands and he is slow which i failed to mention . Neither of these are top ten imo , Helenius has improved but he is getting on , Wilder has that punch and thats it really , he's not a top quality boxer as such.
If they both come out swinging i dont think this is gonna last long , and Wilder is probably the hardest hitter in the division at the moment .
Give me the days of Tyson , Holyfield , Lewis .. etc
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My only claim to fame is that I stood within 10 feet of Tyson in NY back in 1997 just after the Holyfield fight.
I was shocked how short he was but I've never seen such ferocity in a human being before or since, he frightened me and I was in a crowd of dozens !!
 
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