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RIP Earnie Shavers (74 - 14 - 1 , 68 KOs) , one of the hardest hitters in the heavyweight division , Randall 'Tex' Cobb once said of him "Ernie Shavers could punch you in the neck and break your ankle" , who has died at the age of 78
 
I remember watching Earnie Shavers in my youth, he fought in the golden age of boxing when there was only 1 world champion(later 2 when WBA & WBC were formed) & only 8 weights & BBC used to show boxing on a regular basis, before Sky bought sport. RIP Earnie
 
Boxing , along with Martial Arts , is my main love in the 'sporting' world .. and has been since i was young and started training . I used to do write ups for a site i used to be a member of (now defunct) and thought i might do so again , when i get the time .. i dunno if theres any interest . One tonight is Ruiz v Ortiz ... so i'll do a quickie ... You''ll remember Andy Ruiz Jr (36 Fights , 34 Wins (22 KO) , 2 Losses) as the first one to take the belts from Anthony Joshua , before Uysk , and then unlike Uysk relinquishing them in the rematch lol. This looks a tough one to call if im being honest as theres alot of pros and cons to both boxers , and i think it could be tough for them both. Ruiz comes into this in decent shape , slimmed down , and is a sharp puncher with decent power .. Luis Ortiz (37 fights , 33 wins (28 KO) , 2 Losses , 2 No Contests) has solid power as well but he's now 43 and in his last fight looked slow and sluggish , nothing like when he was at his peak , but for all that hes still a dangerous fighter. Ruiz is short for a heavyweight , just over 6 foot , but he's quick and as i said before he's a sharp puncher , he also has a pretty durable chin , and if he gets on the inside of Ortiz he could cause problems , but he does make mistakes and has a tendency to get hit , so if he keeps his head and boxes smart i can see him winning rounds and maybe putting Ortiz away in the later rounds by TKO/KO as he's beginning to lag , but it wont be easy as Ortiz's only losses have come to Wilder , and Ruiz doesnt hit as hard as Wilder. Not an easy one to call but ...
Ruiz to win .. (By TKO/KO rounds 8-10 or By Decision)

Edit .. Next write up for Marshall / Shields on September 10th
 
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Boxing , along with Martial Arts , is my main love in the 'sporting' world .. and has been since i was young and started training . I used to do write ups for a site i used to be a member of (now defunct) and thought i might do so again , when i get the time .. i dunno if theres any interest . One tonight is Ruiz v Ortiz ... so i'll do a quickie ... You''ll remember Andy Ruiz Jr (36 Fights , 34 Wins (22 KO) , 2 Losses) as the first one to take the belts from Anthony Joshua , before Uysk , and then unlike Uysk relinquishing them in the rematch lol. This looks a tough one to call if im being honest as theres alot of pros and cons to both boxers , and i think it could be tough for them both. Ruiz comes into this in decent shape , slimmed down , and is a sharp puncher with decent power .. Luis Ortiz (37 fights , 33 wins (28 KO) , 2 Losses , 2 No Contests) has solid power as well but he's now 43 and in his last fight looked slow and sluggish , nothing like when he was at his peak , but for all that hes still a dangerous fighter. Ruiz is short for a heavyweight , just over 6 foot , but he's quick and as i said before he's a sharp puncher , he also has a pretty durable chin , and if he gets on the inside of Ortiz he could cause problems , but he does make mistakes and has a tendency to get hit , so if he keeps his head and boxes smart i can see him winning rounds and maybe putting Ortiz away in the later rounds by TKO/KO as he's beginning to lag , but it wont be easy as Ortiz's only losses have come to Wilder , and Ruiz doesnt hit as hard as Wilder. Not an easy one to call but ...
Ruiz to win .. (By TKO/KO rounds 8-10 or By Decision)

Edit .. Next write up for Marshall / Shields on September 10th

Well Ruiz won by unanimous decision although rounds 7 , 8 , 9 and 10 i thought he could of finished Ortiz tbh , dropped him in the 7th and then seemed to let him recover instead of piling on the pressure .

Looking forward to Marshall and Shields , seems to be a real grudge fight and should be a good fight , and its gonna be an all female undercard , including Mayer v Baumgardner for the super featherweight title which should be a good fight as well .. cant wait :)
 
10th September - Clarissa Shields v Savannah Marshall

Clarissa Shields - 12 Fights - !2 Wins (2 KOs) and Savannah Marshall - 12 Fights - 12 Wins (10 KOs) put up their unbeaten records when they meet up to decide whose the undisputed middleweight champion of the world , Shields comes into this holding the WBC , IBF , WBA and Ring Magazine titles whilst Marshall has the WBO belt in her possession and as i said I'm really looking to this fight , well the whole card if I'm being honest , as it has all the ingredients of being a proper humdinger.
Marshall has already beaten Shields , albeit back in the amateurs in the 2012 World Championships and whilst both have come along way since then i do wonder whether that maybe gives Marshall a slight psychological edge coming into this , i don't know obviously as Shields come across as full of confidence but i just think maybe back in a recess of her brain somewhere that that loss is in there and plays on her mind a little.
Theres no doubting the class of both fighters , Shields is one helluva talented boxer i have to say , with sublime , silky skills who has a good work rate and puts together solid combinations whilst Marshall is also a great boxer , maybe not as technically proficient as her opponent in some areas but she possesses explosive power which has seen her despatch 10 of her opponents by knockout. I think that this bout could well boil down to a boxer v a puncher case scenario , as though Shields has stopped two of her opponents (hasnt stopped anyone since her 4th pro fight back in 2017) she possesses nowhere near the punching power of Marshall and Marshall whilst accomplished skill wise doesnt possess the skill set of Shields.
Coming into this Shields beat Ema Kozin last time , February 2022 , by UD whilst Marshall stopped the tough Femke Hermans in April of this year , totally demolishing her in three rounds , thats some going as she'd previously never been stopped. I think its interesting that Shields has also fought Hermans back in 2018 winning by decision , she's also fought another of Marshall's victims , Scotlands Hannah Rankin , again winning by a unanimous decision whilst Marshall stopped her in the seventh courtesy of a TKO.
This is a hard one to call really , as i think if Shields utilises all her skills and manages to keep away from the bombs then she could possibly outbox Marshall and take it to the judges cards , but keeping out of the way of Marshalls big punches for ten rounds could prove to be very difficult imho. Marshall has a good trainer in Peter Fury and i think he'd have her well schooled and trained , and i'm sure that as she's naturally bigger he'll have told her to use that to her advantage and to impose her strength on Shields , wear her down , trying to find a way in until she spots an opportunity to unleash on her. Shields seems to have a decent enough chin , but the amateurs are totally different from the pro's and I think she might struggle if Marshall catches her cleanly. Like i say this is a tough one to call , and i really do think it could go either way , but i'm gonna let my heart rule my head and say that 'The Silent Assassin' wins , and brings the unified titles to these shores

Marshall to win .. (By KO/TKO)
 
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Very good write-up, Sean Sean !

Btw, on MMA, I note that both Connor McGregor and Sean Sugar o' Malley got foot/leg injuries.
Do you think this is a big problem, with bone weakening and arthritis following the constant impacts?
 
Very good write-up, Sean Sean !

Btw, on MMA, I note that both Connor McGregor and Sean Sugar o' Malley got foot/leg injuries.
Do you think this is a big problem, with bone weakening and arthritis following the constant impacts?
Are we still discussing Connor McGregor, is he still relevant , I thought he was exposed as useless and in the right place at the right time, surely just fodder for these pretendy YouTube boxers to make a few quid now in faux fights for millions. An absolute clown destined to be in prison, got away with enough already, a nasty little c…
From what I’ve read he is richer than the greatest footballer to ever kick a ball Ronaldo and LeBron James, how is this even possible to make this much money on the back of so little talent. I’m not a fan of that nonsense where they dry hump each other in a cage but he’s not even very good at that is he?
 
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Yes, O Outlander, I'm asking about the injuries. What do you think?
I was told that the shin-bone got weakened and arthritis got in. End result lower leg shattered.

As for talent, just look how rich England's heroes , j.saville, and b. johnson , were/are.

Money in show-bizz comes frm the public.
It may well be the case that the majority of us - the public - are total fkn morons, but, pal, that's where the bread comes from.

Fair and just?
Not in my opinion, but, just as in the racing game, prospering ain't just a matter of talent. "Promotion" and "delusion" ( advertising) is what makes the difference.
That's why I remain a poor old pensioner. :D
 
Cheers markfinn markfinn S Sandhog

S Sandhog , injuries are always a problem in any contact sport , well any sport tbh .. bone weakening shouldnt be a problem as you're supposed to toughen your bones through certain things and exercises , arthiritis is / could be a problem , but theres exercises to improve your muscle tone and strength that can help prevent or delay it and you always warm up / warm down and stretch before and after training . But as you know despite all best efforts it could still happen , maybe cus of the repetitiveness and strain put on the joints by certain movements/high intensity training and of course through injury , mind you i'd hope that if a pro had a niggling injury they'd get it seen to asap
 
Thanks, Sean Sean.
I know a bit about joint injury and arthritis. I was so glad to get my new hip, which was first hurt, when I got buried at Birmingham airport, when the side of the shaft fell in. :) I was a dkhd not to get it fixed earlier.

in MMA, I have a feeling that a few of them are on the whacky ( or stronger) and, just like with horses, pain-killers get used.
This might lead to a build-up of injury in the bones that cannot be eased out.
Then we get a snap.

That's my theory. :D

Regrettably, I know from experience, that attackers who are off their heads with stuff seem to have a delayed sense of feeling when resisted. Judging by a son of mine, they take a bit of stopping at the time.
Of course, later, they are totally spent.:(
 
Some good bouts coming up in the next coupla months , Alvarez v Golovkin .. Joyce v Parker .. Eubank Jr v Benn .. Lomachenko v Ortiz ... will try and get the first two of those posted up by the weekedn
 
Personnally i think conor benn is just taking on to much with eubank.Just to big for him although i like benn and he has heart of his father eubank is stronger and will enjoy ben having go. There will be nothing lost in his defeat as weights decide fights but surely his camp is making bad mistake here.
 
Are we still discussing Connor McGregor, is he still relevant , I thought he was exposed as useless and in the right place at the right time, surely just fodder for these pretendy YouTube boxers to make a few quid now in faux fights for millions. An absolute clown destined to be in prison, got away with enough already, a nasty little c…
From what I’ve read he is richer than the greatest footballer to ever kick a ball Ronaldo and LeBron James, how is this even possible to make this much money on the back of so little talent. I’m not a fan of that nonsense where they dry hump each other in a cage but he’s not even very good at that is he?
I watched a Netflix documentary about Conor McGregor recently called "Notorious" it's well worth watching and tbh changed my opinion about him to some extent.
 
Saturday September 17th - Canelo Alavrez v Gennady Golovkin

Gotta be honest and say i'm not looking forward to this as much as perhaps I should be , its good that they're having the trilogy fight but for me the previous fights were a farce scoring wise , GGG won the first one hands down for me , and for a lot of others as well , and the second i think he scraped although it was alot closer , and could of gone either way. They were good entertaining fights , theres no denying that , but at the very least this should be one fight apiece and this one should be the decider. And i cant help thinking that unless Triple G knocks Alavarez out this is gonna go the same route , which is what i , and many others , thought about the second fight.
Theres no denying that Alavrez (61 Fights - 57 Wins (39 KOs) - 2 Loss - 2 Draws) is one of the best P4P fighters in the world , but he is coming into this on the back of a loss to Bivol last time out , his first loss since losing to Mayweather back in 2013 so I think he feels the need to re establish his authority at Super Middleweight and he has to win this to ensure his legacy (all the belts are on the line for this one - IBF , WBO , WBA , WBC & Ring Magazine) . He went up to Cruiserweight to fight Bivol last time and as good as he is , he got schooled as far as im concerned , he got outpunched and outboxed , Bivol threw almost twice as many punches as Alavrez during that fight (and more landed 21% to 17%) , and despite the fact he thought he won , that loss would of hurt him and he'll be out to redeem himself here. And he has every chance of doing so , as Golovkin (44 Fights - 42 Wins (37 KOs) - 1 Loss - 1 Draw) is now 40 years old , 8 years older than Alavarez , and that could be telling at the end of the day , looking at his last fight against Ryota Murata , he seemed to take a while to get going , and he cant afford to do that against someone like Alavarez , but once he did find his rhythm he dominated the fight and stopped Murata in the 9th , knocking his opponent down and his corner chucking in the towel. Thats the one thing GGG has in his arsenal he can knock people out but Alavarez has a granite chin and if he never managed it in the first two fights i cant see him doing it in this one if i'm being honest.
I think this is going to go the same way as the previous two tbh , a good entertaining fight that goes to the cards and Alvarez wins , although this one has a little bit more intensity about it i think with the barbed comments from Alavarez , and GGG saying he wont let it get to the cards this time , and its not beyond the realms of possibility that theres a stoppage / knockout this time round . I would love to see GGG stop Alvarez I have to say , it'd be Karma , and whilst it wouldnt be the biggest shock ever , i just think he doesnt look the Triple G of old and its gonna be hard to stop Alavarez in all honesty. If he is to stop him he's gonna have to start a lot quicker than in his previous fight and get into Alvarez from the off , not allowing him to settle and get into a rhythm , but as i said he has a good chin and its gonna take a good un to KO him. And its not beyond the realms that Alvarez stops GGG either , its just one of those fights.
Its certainly not a betting fight for me , its one of those where its head over heart , head says Alvarez and heart says GGG , this time heads gonna rule my heart ..

Alvarez To Win ... (By Decision) .... but I wouldnt mind being wrong :D
 
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Good thread, Sean Sean and all!

I feel most of these are way past their best - with the exception of Benn, but , here we go with my guesses of the moment:

Alvarez
Joyce
Benn
Lomachenko

to win.

I may change my view after reading more. :)
 
Saturday September 24th - Joe Joyce v Joseph Parker

Quite looking forward to this bout to be honest , as to me it looks an interesting and intriguing match up. ... it seems strange that the younger fighter , Parker , is the more experienced in the pro ranks ... Joseph Parker (32 Fights - 30 Wins - 2 Losses (21 KOs) is 30 whilst Joe Joyce (14 Fights - 14 Wins - 0 Losses (13 KOs) is 36. Joyce came into the pro ranks late after a solid career in the amateurs which included an Olympic Silver Medal , and hasnt looked back since winning all 14 of his fights , whilst Parker is an ex world champion , beating Andy Ruiz in 2016 before losing it to Anthony Joshua in 2018 , so as well as experience theres the fact it could be argued that Parker has been boxing at a higher level.
Both come into the fights with wins last time , Parker beat Delboy Chisora in their rematch back in 2021 by UD and looked good , totally dominating the fight from start to finish whilst Joyce beat Christian Hammer with a fourth round TKO .
Think is gonna be a hard fight for both tbh , and hard to weigh up from my perspective , Joyce has earned the nickname The Juggernaut , and its very apt as he steamrolls opponents , pushing forward relentlessly throwing punches until he finds the knockout punch (93% KO rate) , even though his opponents continually catch him he just keeps coming forward absorbing the punches they're throwing like some sort of sponge , and his chin seems pretty durable from what i have seen to date . His biggest fight to date , probably , was with another big hitter and 'potential star' in Daniel Dubois but as with the rest he wore him down and eventually stopped him in the tenth round. As I've already said Parker has been around for a while and , for me , has competed at a higher level , he has very fast hands and puts together good combinations , and has fought the likes of Ruiz Jr , Joshua , Chisora (twice) , Whyte .. so his credentials are proven that he can fight at the highest level , its also proven that he's got a good chin having never been stopped , he was dropped by Chisora in their first fight but got back up which shows me he has the heart , and despite being under pressure he started to regain the higher ground come the mid-late rounds and used his jab more effectively which also shows me that he has determination. And i think theres definatley a potential for something like this to happen again , though tbh Joyce's engine looks good , but he does take alot of punches with his style of fighting which could be a telling factor come the later rounds as Parker , in his last couple of fights , looks fit and his stamina doesnt seem to be an issue. Joyce has a 2 inch height advantage along with a 2 inch reach advantage and he'll be looking to utilise both but as i've said Parker is a seasoned pro and been up against some tough opposition and weathered the storm in all of them , only losing those two bouts to decisions , he knows how to cover up and move , if Joyce doesnt finish this within 6 - 8 rounds i have to say theres a possibility of Parker coming on strong in those later rounds and maybe nicking a decision. As well as being more experienced Parker seems to have improved since changing trainers and Andy Lee seems to have brought the best out of his man it has to be said , and it looks to me as though he ekes out a bit more improvement in each fight.
Its a tough one to call and certainly not one i'd bet on , but i think Joyce can take this .. despite it being imo the hardest fight of his pro career to date i think he's going to rise to the occasion and come out on top , he also knows that this is his big chance of breaking into the big time and that the clock aint exactly on his side so i think he's gonna work that little bit harder , it wont be easy as i've said , Parkers no mug he's been there , seen it and worn the t shirt but i can see Joyce throwing those jabs and just walking forward and throwing relentlessly , and wearing him down but whether he can stop Parker is another thing.

Joyce to win
 
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Bit of news ... dunno whether its just hype or whatever but i've been reading that Fury v Joshua may be happening in December of this year , Fury offered the dates and a 60/40 split , after a bit of to'ing and fro'ing im reading that Joshua has accepted and Hearns backed that ... im not gonna hold my breath as Fury was adamant he'd retired a week or so ago lol but i do hope they get it on , be good for British boxing

Also i should point out that altho technically its boxing im not interested in Jake Paul and you tubers fighting , nor am i interested in Mayweather and his exhibition bouts so they'll be no write ups from me about them
 
10th September - Clarissa Shields v Savannah Marshall

Clarissa Shields - 12 Fights - !2 Wins (2 KOs) and Savannah Marshall - 12 Fights - 12 Wins (10 KOs) put up their unbeaten records when they meet up to decide whose the undisputed middleweight champion of the world , Shields comes into this holding the WBC , IBF , WBA and Ring Magazine titles whilst Marshall has the WBO belt in her possession and as i said I'm really looking to this fight , well the whole card if I'm being honest , as it has all the ingredients of being a proper humdinger.
Marshall has already beaten Shields , albeit back in the amateurs in the 2012 World Championships and whilst both have come along way since then i do wonder whether that maybe gives Marshall a slight psychological edge coming into this , i don't know obviously as Shields come across as full of confidence but i just think maybe back in a recess of her brain somewhere that that loss is in there and plays on her mind a little.
Theres no doubting the class of both fighters , Shields is one helluva talented boxer i have to say , with sublime , silky skills who has a good work rate and puts together solid combinations whilst Marshall is also a great boxer , maybe not as technically proficient as her opponent in some areas but she possesses explosive power which has seen her despatch 10 of her opponents by knockout. I think that this bout could well boil down to a boxer v a puncher case scenario , as though Shields has stopped two of her opponents (hasnt stopped anyone since her 4th pro fight back in 2017) she possesses nowhere near the punching power of Marshall and Marshall whilst accomplished skill wise doesnt possess the skill set of Shields.
Coming into this Shields beat Ema Kozin last time , February 2022 , by UD whilst Marshall stopped the tough Femke Hermans in April of this year , totally demolishing her in three rounds , thats some going as she'd previously never been stopped. I think its interesting that Shields has also fought Hermans back in 2018 winning by decision , she's also fought another of Marshall's victims , Scotlands Hannah Rankin , again winning by a unanimous decision whilst Marshall stopped her in the seventh courtesy of a TKO.
This is a hard one to call really , as i think if Shields utilises all her skills and manages to keep away from the bombs then she could possibly outbox Marshall and take it to the judges cards , but keeping out of the way of Marshalls big punches for ten rounds could prove to be very difficult imho. Marshall has a good trainer in Peter Fury and i think he'd have her well schooled and trained , and i'm sure that as she's naturally bigger he'll have told her to use that to her advantage and to impose her strength on Shields , wear her down , trying to find a way in until she spots an opportunity to unleash on her. Shields seems to have a decent enough chin , but the amateurs are totally different from the pro's and I think she might struggle if Marshall catches her cleanly. Like i say this is a tough one to call , and i really do think it could go either way , but i'm gonna let my heart rule my head and say that 'The Silent Assassin' wins , and brings the unified titles to these shores

Marshall to win .. (By KO/TKO)

POSTPONED ... PROVISIONALLY UNTIL SATURDAY OCTOBER 15th
 
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