AINTREE GRAND NATIONAL 2025

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AINTREE GRAND NATIONAL 2025

Saturday 05/04/2024 @ 16:00

1. Intense Raffles 6/1
2. I Am Maximus 8/1
3. Iroko 8/1
4. Stumptown 10/1
5. Nick Rockett 14/1
6. Percival Legallois 14/1
7. Vanillier 14/1
8. Kandoo Kid 20/1
9. Meetingofthewaters 20/1
10. Monbeg Genius 25/1
11. Montys Star 25/1
12. Hewick 25/1
13. Beauport 33/1
14. Three Card Brag 33/1
15. Hyland 33/1
16. Lhomme Presse 33/1
17. Broadway Boy 33/1
18. Minella Cocooner 40/1
19. Yeah Man 40/1
20. Bravemansgame 40/1
21. Senior Chief 40/1
22. Grangeclare West 50/1
23. Velvet Elvis 50/1
24. Mr Vango 50/1
25. Minella Indo 50/1
26. Macdermott 50/1
27. Stay Away Fay 50/1
28. Limerick Lace 50/1
29. Fil Dor 50/1
30. Famous Bridge 50/1
31. Twig 50/1
32. Threeunderthrufive 50/1
33. Envoi Allen 66/1
34. Horantzau DAiry 66/1
35. Favori De Champdou 66/1
36. Fountaine Collonges 66/1
37. Appreciate It 66/1
38. Zanahiyr 66/1
39. Chantry House 66/1
40. Royale Pegaille 66/1
41. Capodanno 66/1
42. The Real Whacker 66/1
43. Pinkerton 66/1
44. King Turgeon 66/1
45. Mister Coffey 66/1
46. Surrey Quest 66/1
47. Where It All Began 66/1
48. French Dynamite 66/1
49. Coko Beach 66/1
50. Fantastic Lady 66/1
51. Shakem Uparry 66/1
52. Richmond Lake 66/1
53. Idas Boy 66/1
54. Cruz Control 66/1
55. La Renommee 66/1
56. Mr Incredible 66/1
57. Apple Away 66/1
58. Minella Drama 80/1
59. Desertmore House 80/1
60. Malina Girl 80/1
61. Gericault Roque 100/1
62. Hitman 100/1
63. Stuzzikini 100/1
64. Minella Crooner 100/1
65. Farouk Dalene 100/1
66. Chemical Energy 100/1
67. Quick Wave 100/1
68. Conflated 100/1
69. Duffle Coat 100/1
70. Git Maker 100/1
71. Roi Mage 100/1
72. Spanish Harlem 100/1
73. Celebre DAllen 100/1
74. Busselton 100/1
75. Pats Fancy 100/1
76. Escaria Ten 100/1
77. Placenet 150/1

 

[rbtblb82]

I was going to do the full list with VDW, but I got bored, far too many listed atm, and obviously the maximum number of runners is 34 this year, so half of these won't be running anyway, but I did it down to Envoi Allen, plus all weights added....

Horse Name	Odds	Age	Wgt.	Form	Rating	Trainer	Owner	Prize £	Wins	VDW
Intense Raffles	6/1	7	10-10	111902	24	Thomas Gibney	Simon Munir	£298,233.00	6	50
I Am Maximus	8/1	9	11-12	4311P8	27	W P Mullins	J P McManus	£810,783.00	6	135
Iroko	8/1	7	10-11	522F42	25	Greenall & Guerriero	J P McManus	£62,402.00	4	16
Stumptown	10/1	8	11-2	3U1111	17	G P Cromwell	Furze Bush	£125,003.00	8	16
Nick Rockett	14/1	8	11-8	273411	18	W P Mullins	S & S Andrew	£107,122.00	6	18
Percival Legallois	14/1	8	10-12	286411	24	G P Cromwell	J P McManus	£213,625.00	6	36
Vanillier	14/1	10	10-6	0P6913	39	G P Cromwell	H M Keaveney	£85,411.00	4	21
Kandoo Kid	20/1	9	10-11	2P2318	27	Paul Nicholls	M Geoghegan	£176,654.00	4	44
Meetingofthewaters	20/1	8	10-7	U37008	48	W P Mullins	J P McManus	£116,098.00	4	29
Monbeg Genius	25/1	9	10-6	35P241	25	Jonjo O'Neill	Wasdell	£50,329.00	6	8
Montys Star	25/1	8	11-5	122254	16	H De Bromhead	Barry Maloney	£250,652.00	2	125
Hewick	25/1	10	11-7	232571	20	J J Hanlon	T J McDonald	£568,567.00	11	52
Beauport	33/1	9	11-1	P1P132	27	N Twiston-Davies	B & P Burrough	£198,176.00	6	33
Three Card Brag	33/1	8	10-5	233713	19	Gordon Elliot	McNeil Family	£29,452.00	4	7
Hyland	33/1	8	10-6	141122	11	Nicky Henderson	Ten From Seven	£78,573.00	7	11
Lhomme Presse	33/1	10	11-8	12431P	21	Venetia Williams	DFA Racing	£405,095.00	9	45
Broadway Boy	33/1	7	10-9	35324P	27	N Twiston-Davies	D M Proos	£112,462.00	6	19
Minella Cocooner	40/1	9	10-5	315894	30	W P Mullins	David Bobbet	£188,288.00	5	38
Yeah Man	40/1	8	10-3	1934U9	36	G P Cromwell	J J Brennan	£62,171.00	2	31
Bravemansgame	40/1	10	11-0	562383	27	Paul Nicholls	Bryan Drew	£341,223.00	9	38
Senior Chief	40/1	8	10-10	21P169	29	H De Bromhead	Lucky In Life	£75,146.00	4	19
Grangeclare West	50/1	9	11-8	11P625	25	W P Mullins	Cheveley Park	£82,147.00	5	16
Velvet Elvis	50/1	9	10-7	6P1028	37	G P Cromwell	Derek Kiernans	£66,236.00	5	13
Mr Vango	50/1	9	10-2	13P111	17	Sara Bradstock	Cracker & Smodge	£191,690.00	5	38
Minella Indo	50/1	12	11-3	144326	18	H De Bromhead	Barry Maloney	£473,286.00	8	59
Macdermott	50/1	7	10-2	11P0UP	42	W P Mullins	Gallagher	£131,109.00	3	44
Stay Away Fay	50/1	8	10-9	13PPP0	44	Paul Nicholls	Bell & Lyons	£142,456.00	4	36
Limerick Lace	50/1	8	10-10	110525	24	G P Cromwell	J P McManus	£160,169.00	7	23
Fil Dor	50/1	7	10-9	212433	16	Gordon Elliot	RobCor	£81,434.00	6	14
Famous Bridge	50/1	9	9-9	U42316	26	Nicky Richards	Trevor Hemmings	£142,224.00	7	20
Twig	50/1	10	10-5	252P77	33	Ben Pauling	Georgia Morgan	£68,958.00	7	10
Threeunderthrufive	50/1	10	10-12	221032	20	Paul Nicholls	McNeil Family	£181,739.00	10	18
Envoi Allen	66/1	11	11-8	2241U3	22	H De Bromhead	Cheveley Park	£769,593.00	16	48
Horantzau d'Airy	66/1		10-6
Favori De Champdou	66/1		10-3
Fountaine Collonges	66/1		10-6
Appreciate It	66/1		11-2
Zanahiyr	66/1		10-9
Chantry House	66/1		10-13				J P McManus
Royale Pegaille	66/1		11-9
Capodanno	66/1		11-2				J P McManus
The Real Whacker	66/1		11-4
Pinkerton	66/1		10-8
King Turgeon	66/1		9-13
Mister Coffey	66/1		10-2
Surrey Quest	66/1		9-12
Where It All Began	66/1		9-7
French Dynamite	66/1		10-9
Coko Beach	66/1		10-9
Fantastic Lady	66/1		10-3
Shakem Uparry	66/1		10-4
Richmond Lake	66/1		10-1
Idas Boy	66/1		10-10
Cruz Control	66/1		9-12
La Renommee	66/1		10-0
Mr Incredible	66/1		10-9
Apple Away	66/1		9-11
Minella Drama	80/1		10-7
Desertmore House	80/1		10-1
Malina Girl	80/1		10-1
Gericault Roque	100/1		9-4
Hitman	100/1		11-1
Stuzzikini	100/1		9-13
Minella Crooner	100/1		10-5
Farouk Dalene	100/1		10-9
Chemical Energy	100/1		10-2
Quick Wave	100/1		10-5
Conflated	100/1		11-2
Duffle Coat	100/1		10-4
Git Maker	100/1		9-6
Roi Mage	100/1		10-4
Spanish Harlem	100/1		9-11
Celebre DAllen	100/1		10-6
Busselton	100/1		9-11
Pats Fancy	100/1		9-3
Escaria Ten	100/1		9-7
Placenet	150/1		9-3

 

[rbtblb82]

Iknowthewayurthinkin is meant to be running, but I can't see him on any of the gambling sites, just on Racing Post and Timeform atm.

I think I fancy Mr Vango, I Am Maximus, Threeunderthrufive and Hewick atm. Minella Indo could run well again, but 12 yro now.

If Broadway Boy, Iroko, Nick Rockett, Hyland, Beauport, Montys Star or Monbeg Genius wins I'll be shocked, those horses are rubbish, well over-rated and they're not even rated. All naff in my opinion, but all been running poorly this year as well, except Hyland's had one decent run.

 

[Outlander]

Iknowthewayurthinkin is meant to be running, but I can't see him on any of the gambling sites, just on Racing Post and Timeform atm.

I think I fancy Mr Vango, I Am Maximus, Threeunderthrufive and Hewick atm. Minella Indo could run well again, but 12 yro now.

If Broadway Boy, Iroko, Nick Rockett, Hyland, Beauport, Montys Star or Monbeg Genius wins I'll be shocked, those horses are rubbish, well over-rated and they're not even rated. All naff in my opinion, but all been running poorly this year as well, except Hyland's had one decent run.

Agree there is some dross in this race this year, Stumptown stands out to me.

 

[rbtblb82]

I do like Stumptown, I follow & usually back Gavin Cromwell anyway, but Stumptown is one his better horses that I usually always back, I backed him at Cheltenham, my only concern is the turn around - 3m5f on 12/03 followed by 4m2f 05/04, only 24 days later. He is still only 8 yro, so 24 days could be enough for him to fully recover, depends how much it took out of him.

 

[rbtblb82]

My mum picked Malina Girl for the Ultima, 3m1f (Gavin Cromwell horse, it was 3rd @ 14/1), so she's having it in the national @ 80/1, why not ey.

 

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Inothewayurthinkin is out of the Grand National, apparently he was 3/1 favourite, not that it was listed anywhere other than William Hill that I could find, but Cromwell has taken him out, sounds like they're keeping him as a Gold Cup horse, and might go the the Punchestown festival/Gold Cup.

 

[rbtblb82]

It looks like the Irish Grand National has been a good race for picking horses in the UK Grand National over the last few years...(there was no Irish or UK Grand National in 2020)

• Burrows Saint won the Irish Grand National 2019 - 7th in the UK Grand National 2021
• Freewheelin Dylan won the Irish Grand National 2021 - 26th in the UK Grand National 2022
• I Am Maximus won the Irish Grand National 2023 - won the UK Grand National 2024
• Intense Raffles won the Irish Grand National 2024 - favourite for the UK Grand National 2025

Classic commentary from Jerry Hannon!

 

[pawras]

Last time I looked, since 2000 there's been 59 runners go from the Fairyhouse Irish Grand National to the following Aintree Grand National, 2 have won and 6 have placed. That includes 13 winners of the Fairyhouse Irish Grand National and only 1 has gone on to win the following Aintree Grand National.

 

[pawras]

Nearer the time I'll post detailed stuff but unlike some of the other 'Nationals' the Aintree Grand National doesn't have any good trial race trends imo.
The best of a bad bunch for runners go to following Aintree Grand National for ew bets are

Fairyhouse Bobbyjo Chase Stakes 3m 1f 88y Grade3 in Feb
Cheltenham Cross Country Chase Stakes 3m 5f 56y C2 in March

 

[rbtblb82]

Last time I looked, since 2000 there's been 59 runners go from the Fairyhouse Irish Grand National to the following Aintree Grand National, 2 have won and 6 have placed. That includes 13 winners of the Fairyhouse Irish Grand National and only 1 has gone on to win the following Aintree Grand National.

Aye, it's more from the last 4/5 years - they've done reasonably well over the last few years - probably just with the Irish domination across the board these days. I just thought that since I Am Maximus did it, maybe Intense Raffles has a chance, but 5/1 bit short for the national.

 

[gerry]

There is a strategy i have followed for years in grand national and i must admit i do pretty good and i think is more prevailent now easier fences than past.
The big fences actually make it easier to get the distance than people think not harder.
But anyway what i do and it seems to work is if the ground is good or faster all you need to do is study the horses from top weight down to 10th and winner is usually in there some where so cuts field.
And if ground is soft or slower you do opposite and disgard them and look below that weight and usually breeding can help with that to horses who like soft.
But main point is ground is everything in national.

 

[rbtblb82]

Interesting Gerry, I often do back a few of the bottom weights due to the distance, but will check the going and bear this in mind.

 

[pawras]

Some extra gumpf on past Grand National winners

 

[pawras]

Interesting that since they made changes in 2013 :-
- all the winners from 2015 onwards have never fallen previously.
- only 2 winners had run over a 4 mile chase previously
- all the winners from 2015 onwards have been no more than 9yr old

 

[rbtblb82]

It looks like Mr Vango will miss out, not happy, I agree with Sara Bradstock and they should limit each trainer to 3 entries.

'Maybe we need to cap trainers at three' - Sara Bradstock voices Grand National frustration with Mr Vango set to miss out​

Mr Vango has gone up to a mark of 152 after winning the Midlands Grand National at UttoxeterCredit: John Grossick (racingpost.com/photos)
Sara Bradstock has joined a tide of voices lamenting the evolution of the Randox Grand National, with the changes to racing's greatest spectacle almost certain to keep this year's London National, Peter Marsh and Midlands National winner Mr Vango out of the race.

The massive nine-year-old would get into the race with ease off his current BHA rating of 152. However, because the weights are finalised in February and no penalties are awarded to winners after that point, he is stuck on the outside at number 49 on the list, with a mark of 143, and needs a highly unlikely 15 to come out to get into the field.

 

[pawras]

Interesting that since they made changes in 2013 :-
- all the winners from 2015 onwards have never fallen previously.
- only 2 winners had run over a 4 mile chase previously
- all the winners from 2015 onwards have been no more than 9yr old

Where as I just checked and the age range for place only over the years is 7 to 13

 

[Outlander]

It looks like Mr Vango will miss out, not happy, I agree with Sara Bradstock and they should limit each trainer to 3 entries.

'Maybe we need to cap trainers at three' - Sara Bradstock voices Grand National frustration with Mr Vango set to miss out​

Mr Vango has gone up to a mark of 152 after winning the Midlands Grand National at UttoxeterCredit: John Grossick (racingpost.com/photos)
Sara Bradstock has joined a tide of voices lamenting the evolution of the Randox Grand National, with the changes to racing's greatest spectacle almost certain to keep this year's London National, Peter Marsh and Midlands National winner Mr Vango out of the race.

The massive nine-year-old would get into the race with ease off his current BHA rating of 152. However, because the weights are finalised in February and no penalties are awarded to winners after that point, he is stuck on the outside at number 49 on the list, with a mark of 143, and needs a highly unlikely 15 to come out to get into the field.

Absolutely bored of trainers having half the field, Mullins , Elliot and the new kid on the block Cromwell could literally have every horse in the race between them if they wanted. Soon there will be Gold Cups and Grand Nationals with no U.K. runners, we are getting close to that already.

 

[pawras]

I've long said that I believe trainers should be limited to about 25% of the field, and probs capped at 4 overall
i.e. 2-6 runners - 1 only
7-11 runners - 2 max
12-15 runners - 3 max
16+ - 4 max

 

[pawras]

Anything over 155lb is a negative for me, I wouldn't outright draw a line through but would have to have a lot of other points in it's a favour

Out of the last 20 GN's (2004 - 2024) 5 winning jockeys had never ridden in the race before, well from 2000 onwards, and 3 had never won at Aintree full stop