race_date | racetime | track | place | horse_name | time | standard | GA | Rating |
12/03/2020 | 14:50:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Min (FR) | 319.66 | 308.84 | 76 | 169 |
12/03/2020 | 14:50:00 | Cheltenham | 2nd | Saint Calvados (FR) | 319.66 | 308.84 | 76 | 169 |
12/03/2020 | 14:50:00 | Cheltenham | 3rd | A Plus Tard (FR) | 319.66 | 308.84 | 76 | 168 |
10/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 2nd | Sharjah (FR) | 247.03 | 231.67 | 119 | 167 |
10/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 2nd | Fakir Doudairies (FR) | 248.14 | 232.86 | 118 | 166 |
13/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Al Boum Photo (FR) | 410.38 | 399.18 | 62 | 165 |
13/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 2nd | Santini | 410.38 | 399.18 | 62 | 164 |
12/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Sire Du Berlais (FR) | 360.22 | 346.68 | 74 | 164 |
11/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Champ (IRE) | 388.67 | 369.90 | 102 | 164 |
13/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 3rd | Lostintranslation (IRE) | 410.38 | 399.18 | 62 | 164 |
13/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 4th | Monalee (IRE) | 410.38 | 399.18 | 62 | 164 |
10/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Epatante (FR) | 247.03 | 231.67 | 119 | 163 |
11/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 2nd | Minella Indo (IRE) | 388.67 | 369.90 | 102 | 163 |
10/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 3rd | Darver Star (IRE) | 247.03 | 231.67 | 119 | 163 |
11/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 3rd | Allaho (FR) | 388.67 | 369.90 | 102 | 162 |
11/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Envoi Allen (FR) | 318.73 | 300.62 | 106 | 162 |
12/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 2nd | The Storyteller (IRE) | 360.22 | 346.68 | 74 | 161 |
13/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | F | Presenting Percy | 410.38 | 399.18 | 62 | 161 |
13/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 5th | Delta Work (FR) | 410.38 | 399.18 | 62 | 161 |
10/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Shishkin (IRE) | 248.2 | 231.67 | 119 | 160 |
13/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 6th | Real Steel (FR) | 410.38 | 399.18 | 62 | 160 |
10/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 2nd | Abacadabras (FR) | 248.2 | 231.67 | 119 | 160 |
13/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 2nd | Aramon (GER) | 242.42 | 237.03 | 51 | 160 |
10/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 4th | Cilaos Emery (FR) | 247.03 | 231.67 | 119 | 160 |
12/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Samcro (IRE) | 307.32 | 296.06 | 76 | 159 |
12/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 2nd | Melon | 307.32 | 296.06 | 76 | 159 |
11/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 2nd | Easywork (FR) | 318.73 | 300.62 | 106 | 158 |
12/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 3rd | Faugheen (IRE) | 307.32 | 296.06 | 76 | 158 |
10/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 5th | Petit Mouchoir (FR) | 247.03 | 231.67 | 119 | 158 |
10/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 6th | Silver Streak (IRE) | 247.03 | 231.67 | 119 | 157 |
13/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 7th | Kemboy (FR) | 410.38 | 399.18 | 62 | 157 |
12/03/2020 | 14:50:00 | Cheltenham | 4th | Frodon (FR) | 319.66 | 308.84 | 76 | 157 |
13/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 3rd | Embittered (IRE) | 242.42 | 237.03 | 51 | 157 |
12/03/2020 | 14:50:00 | Cheltenham | 5th | Duc Des Genievres (FR) | 319.66 | 308.84 | 76 | 157 |
13/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | UR | Goshen (FR) | 246.28 | 237.03 | 51 | 156 |
11/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 3rd | The Big Getaway (IRE) | 318.73 | 300.62 | 106 | 155 |
12/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 4th | Mister Fisher (IRE) | 307.32 | 296.06 | 76 | 155 |
10/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | F | Elixir DAinay (FR) | 248.2 | 231.67 | 119 | 155 |
10/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 7th | Supasundae | 247.03 | 231.67 | 119 | 154 |
12/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 7th | Saint Sonnet (FR) | 307.32 | 296.06 | 76 | 154 |
10/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Put The Kettle On (IRE) | 248.14 | 232.86 | 118 | 154 |
13/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 8th | Clan Des Obeaux (FR) | 410.38 | 399.18 | 62 | 153 |
10/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | BD | Captain Guinness (IRE) | 248.2 | 231.67 | 119 | 153 |
13/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Saint Roi (FR) | 242.42 | 237.03 | 51 | 153 |
13/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 9th | Bristol De Mai (FR) | 410.38 | 399.18 | 62 | 153 |
13/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 10th | Chriss Dream (IRE) | 410.38 | 399.18 | 62 | 153 |
10/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 8th | Ballyandy | 247.03 | 231.67 | 119 | 153 |
13/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 11th | Elegant Escape (IRE) | 410.38 | 399.18 | 62 | 153 |
13/03/2020 | 16:50:00 | Cheltenham | 2nd | Eclair De Beaufeu (FR) | 247.9 | 239.96 | 62 | 152 |
13/03/2020 | 16:50:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Chosen Mate (IRE) | 247.9 | 239.96 | 62 | 152 |
13/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 4th | Buildmeupbuttercup | 242.42 | 237.03 | 51 | 152 |
12/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 5th | Tornado Flyer (IRE) | 307.32 | 296.06 | 76 | 151 |
12/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Lisnagar Oscar (IRE) | 363.2 | 346.68 | 74 | 150 |
11/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 4th | The Big Breakaway (IRE) | 318.73 | 300.62 | 106 | 150 |
12/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 6th | Midnight Shadow | 307.32 | 296.06 | 76 | 150 |
race_date | racetime | track | place | horse_name | time | standard | GA | Rating |
12/03/2020 | 14:50:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Min (FR) | 319.66 | 308.84 | 76 | 169 |
13/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Al Boum Photo (FR) | 410.38 | 399.18 | 62 | 165 |
12/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Sire Du Berlais (FR) | 360.22 | 346.68 | 74 | 164 |
11/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Champ (IRE) | 388.67 | 369.90 | 102 | 164 |
10/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Epatante (FR) | 247.03 | 231.67 | 119 | 163 |
11/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Envoi Allen (FR) | 318.73 | 300.62 | 106 | 162 |
10/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Shishkin (IRE) | 248.2 | 231.67 | 119 | 160 |
12/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Samcro (IRE) | 307.32 | 296.06 | 76 | 159 |
10/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Put The Kettle On (IRE) | 248.14 | 232.86 | 118 | 154 |
13/03/2020 | 14:10:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Saint Roi (FR) | 242.42 | 237.03 | 51 | 153 |
13/03/2020 | 16:50:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Chosen Mate (IRE) | 247.9 | 239.96 | 62 | 152 |
12/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Lisnagar Oscar (IRE) | 363.2 | 346.68 | 74 | 150 |
13/03/2020 | 16:10:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | It Came To Pass (IRE) | 415.51 | 399.18 | 62 | 149 |
13/03/2020 | 14:50:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Monkfish (IRE) | 357.96 | 346.68 | 51 | 144 |
10/03/2020 | 17:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Ravenhill (IRE) | 505.16 | 469.96 | 118 | 141 |
12/03/2020 | 16:50:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Concertista (FR) | 249.02 | 237.03 | 74 | 140 |
11/03/2020 | 15:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Politologue (FR) | 250.03 | 232.86 | 102 | 139 |
10/03/2020 | 16:50:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Imperial Aura (IRE) | 324.32 | 300.11 | 118 | 138 |
12/03/2020 | 16:10:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Simply The Betts (IRE) | 326.08 | 308.84 | 76 | 132 |
11/03/2020 | 16:50:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Aramax (GER) | 252.08 | 231.67 | 106 | 132 |
13/03/2020 | 13:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Burning Victory (FR) | 246.28 | 237.03 | 51 | 131 |
10/03/2020 | 16:10:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Honeysuckle | 308.73 | 283.14 | 119 | 130 |
10/03/2020 | 14:50:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | The Conditional (IRE) | 410.75 | 380.96 | 118 | 126 |
13/03/2020 | 17:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Indefatigable (IRE) | 303.73 | 289.06 | 51 | 122 |
11/03/2020 | 14:50:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Dame De Compagnie (FR) | 325.4 | 300.62 | 106 | 121 |
11/03/2020 | 17:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Ferny Hollow (IRE) | 246.06 | 224.74 | 106 | 116 |
12/03/2020 | 17:30:00 | Cheltenham | 1st | Milan Native (IRE) | 429.2 | 399.63 | 76 | 107 |
Just picking up this thread while going through a few old threads. It seems from reading your posts you are trying to find the winner of every race? This is impossible and useless for making a profit. You are obviously finding good priced winners with your ratings and should be concentrating on which type of race or races the most success is coming from. Then specialise in those races. I only bet 2 and 3 year olds in non handicaps up to 8f. You need to specialise and I am sure you will,be successful.Yesterday not great again 2/15 top rated winners @ 9/2 and 4/1
There were 5 2nd top rated winners @ 22/1, 20/1, 8/1, 9/2 and 4/1
so maybe the rating weren't too bad a guide overall.
Todays Ratings
I think you will find that O Outlander has made giant strides since March 14th and has been making a Good profit on his latest Ratings and methods of zoning in on specific areas where the strike rate and profits increase.Just picking up this thread while going through a few old threads. It seems from reading your posts you are trying to find the winner of every race? This is impossible and useless for making a profit. You are obviously finding good priced winners with your ratings and should be concentrating on which type of race or races the most success is coming from. Then specialise in those races. I only bet 2 and 3 year olds in non handicaps up to 8f. You need to specialise and I am sure you will,be successful.
I have changed the way I calculated my speed ratings about 2 months ago after a discussion on your thread, I don’t include weight now , I haven’t had chance to update my ratings in the last few days because I’m helping my son out with his new house, but up to that point my ratings have been making a small profit on all top rated horses speed and class to Betfair SP with 5% commission , recently started a detailed results sheet with filters to try and locate where my ratings are doing best, but need much more data before I can get anything worthwhile.Just picking up this thread while going through a few old threads. It seems from reading your posts you are trying to find the winner of every race? This is impossible and useless for making a profit. You are obviously finding good priced winners with your ratings and should be concentrating on which type of race or races the most success is coming from. Then specialise in those races. I only bet 2 and 3 year olds in non handicaps up to 8f. You need to specialise and I am sure you will,be successful.
Of course they don't mick , my comment was simply following on from what B Bertie123 was saying, nobody finding fault just sharing opinions.T tacker Re your above i suspect that the members of this forum who create and profit from there own SF take nothing at face value or for granted when using them. Other than to take note of time based going i do not use SF as part of my process but even allowing for this i still find much of interest in what they share. Re your " if it was easy there wouldn't be any bookies" i would counter via " If it was impossible then said bookies would take a bet from all punters " .
O Outlander , TheBluesBrother and davejb have earned my respect in the way they have collaborated so well together and they have recognised what you have mentioned with regards ground conditions being paramount and also of Equal importance, factoring Rail Movements. There working together has seen very accurate speed ratings that can be relied upon to measure what a horse has achieved and sometimes there figures will give a clue that a much hyped horse many the pundits have gone overboard about, has yet to live up to that hype, as it’s speed figures do not match up with the “Next Best Thing since sliced bread“ opinion of the punditsIs it ever sensible to rely on any one aspect of a horses form whether it be speed ot time ?
I'm of the view that nothing should be ignored, ground conditions can be paramount with some horses but again can mislead you if you see it has won on soft doesn't confirm it is suited to such conditions without understanding what was achieved, same with the proximity to horses running in much higher classed races, caught me out many a time.
The way people on here use databases is impressive as is the speed lads but do you want to bet without all the other factors being taken into account ? The ability to watch a horses previous runs is priceless but still needs understanding and judgement or it becomes easy to be fooled, pace of the race is a great help in assessing a race but very complicated, if it was easy there wouldn't be any bookies.