my placepot

[jammy54]

2 years ago i went from jedburgh to wolverhampton for saturday night racing. it was a great time. however s. walker was on the certainty in the first race, all over the placepot. but just like tonight he was not placed !.

 

[jammy54]

today at wolves
2/5
3/11
7
2
4
4
4 lines at .50pts. p/l -27.88pts

 

[jammy54]

southwell
4/2/5/4/8/8
1 line at 1pt. p/l -28.88pts

 

[jammy54]

try 2 today
lingfield 3/6/2/3/2/9
sandown 4/9/3/2/10/8
2 lines at 1pt each. p/l -30.88pts

 

[jammy54]

lingfield
3/7
4
4/9
3
5/6
4/5
16 lines at .25pts. p/l -34.88pts

 

[jammy54]

better be quick, carlisle
2/5/5/1/4/2
1 line at 1pt. p/l -35.88pts

 

[jammy54]

wolves 23/02/16
1/8
3/7
5/9
2/6
2
2
16 lines at .25pts. p/l -39.88pts

 

[jammy54]

doncaster 24/02/16
3/2/9+11/4/4/1
2 lines at.50pts. p/l -40.88pts

 

[valiant thor]

I like to do a placepot myself @ big meetings or the scoop 6 most weekends.
I pick 2 bankers and 3 from each of the other 4 races but perm those runners (12) into 9 lines.
3 per race in in the other 4 races would equate to 81 lines.
but by perming I reduce the cost to 9 lines.
If I get 1 out of each of the other 4 races I am guaranteed 5 correct on 1 line (if both bankers win) with @ 33% (2/1)chance of all 6
with a reduction in cost of around 88.9 % allowing me to back each line @ £1 rather than 0.11p
I will do Doncaster today as an example, Hope the snip below is self explanatory .


Here you can see my Banker races are the 2.30 (no 8 Lou Vert) and 4.40 (no 2 Ballycrystal)
1 point per line 9 staked.

 

[simon boardman]

interesting post valiant thor . I do the pot a lot and it all comes down to fielding against the Obvious Favs if you want a decent pickup from a small stake.
thanks for posting up your perm , I have a piece of software which throws up lots of perms but I got to the point where I was throwing quite a large stake at these perm combinations and because of the Full Perm reductions that keeps the stake down often you would get to the last leg or 2 with only 1 runner going for you.
I think a full perm of 81 lines in your example would obviously land the pot more often but I guess you would prefer to land the pot less often but to a full £1 dividend.

 

[simon boardman]

my perm for Doncaster today
1. 1
2. 1,2
3. 7
4. 6
5. 4,1
6. 1,2
8@ 25p.

 

[jammy54]

@valiant thor thanks for the example. interesting idea to keep stakes higher, as i often increase lines and reduce stake to keep within the wifes purse strings, as we have to do. hope we all go well at doncaster today.

 

[valiant thor]

Hi Simon
That is the idea behind it, theoretically both should end up winning around the same in the long run.
But I personally like the full slice of the cake so to speak rather than the crumbs
good luck

 

[jammy54]

with a 4 runner race at kempton tonight i will give it a miss, so did a quick line at lingfield instead.
5/1/3/6/6/8 to 1pt

 

[valiant thor]

interesting post valiant thor
I think a full perm of 81 lines in your example would obviously land the pot more often but I guess you would prefer to land the pot less often but to a full £1 dividend.

@valiant thor thanks for the example. interesting idea to keep stakes higher, as i often increase lines and reduce stake to keep within the wifes purse strings, as we have to do. hope we all go well at doncaster today.

If you did the scoop six (what I normally use this perm for ) you would have to play £2 min a line wouldnt you ?
I may be wrong but I didn't think you were allowed to dilute from the minimum £2 stake, if that were the case you are excluding yourself from the big pots.
For 81 lines it would cost £164
where my perm would cost £18

 

[simon boardman]

valiant thor I think we are referring to the placepot , but totally agree with regards to the Scoop 6.

 

[jammy54]

dont do the scoop six that often, when i do it is only the 1 line.

 

[jammy54]

sedgefield
4/9/11/4/4/11
1 line at 1pt. p/l -42.88pts

 

[jammy54]

one line at exeter today
1/1/1/1/1/11. p/l -43.88pts

 

[jammy54]

chepstow today
5
7/9
2
5/14/15
5
6/8
12 lines at .25pts. p/l -46.88pts