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Irish course standard times

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Hi,

Just wondering if anyone has a compiled a set of standard time for Irish Courses, other than the times used by the Racing Post?
Regards
Steve
 
davejb

davejb

Stallion
Didn't see this query, it's probably best to ask stuff on one of the existing speed threads like 'Compiling Speed Figures' for future ref.

I haven't got times for some little used distances, but here's a set that includes the Irish - be aware that I'm still working on these, especially the flat, so some will change as and when i spot issues.

Columns B give the course name, C the name of the track (this is for when there's an inner and an outer, or a straight and a round at the same distance, and so on, plus some 'named' tracks like Aintree has a Mildmay and a Lancaster, Cheltenham has old and new, and so on), D is Flat/AW or NH for the racing code, E distance as reported in results etc in miles, furlongs, yards, F is distance to nearest half furlong, G is distance in yards, H the standard I calculated in seconds, I is the speed in number of yards per second that the time equates to.

There are a few blanks still, that I will fill in over the season as I get a bit more info.

No guarantees, seem to work a bit better than RP so far.
Dave
 

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Thanks Dave your a star, that's brilliant, lovely spreadsheet to use. I've been struggling in Ireland because the RP times are so out, which skews the speed ratings way out also. I focus on a small pool of horses & accuracy in aspects of handicapping is key Best wishes, Steve👍
 
davejb

davejb

Stallion
Just bear in mind there will be figures that need correcting - I tend to look for odd looking ratings, like something in a £5000 handicap gets a rating of 120 or a derby trial winner gets - 15, and treat it as a flag to look at the standard to see how it compares to others at the track, also how that track compares to others. If I compare 5 tracks at all distances and the track being looked at has the 2nd fastest times for all distances except for being slowest of them for the dodgy one, then I start considering how it might need tightening up a bit.

Slow work. I do think this file is mostly okay though.
Dave
 
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Thanks again for you time Dave, I get you rationale for spotting the inconsistencies. I often wish we had the accuracy of the US flat racing, still I suppose if we take the time battle through the problems of times, rail movements etc, and do our homework to get some reasonable figures on which to plan our betting strategies, we may gain an edge over other punters who rely on unreliable speed figures or ignore them altogether. That's the hope and intention for our hard work anyway😉 wishing you best of luck 🤞 🍀 kind regards, Steve from Cornwall
 
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