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justmyluck1

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Does any one know how the HRB standard ratings supplied in the race cards perform ?, I understand Proform claim to have 60% winners from their top 3 rated and i was wondering how HRB compare.
 
justmyluck1 said:
Does any one know how the HRB standard ratings supplied in the race cards perform ?, I understand Proform claim to have 60% winners from their top 3 rated and i was wondering how HRB compare.
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I think the important word with Proform is, "claim." Although, by using Proform and a bit of better judgement I've just collected a small Exacta and a nice Trifecta.

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justmyluck1 said:
I don`t see how those ratings would point you to a wining exacta or trifecta ?
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and a bit of better judgement - Race 3 is obvious for the Trifecta. Also, which you appear to have missed is the winner in the first three races did not come from the first three top rated
 
justmyluck1 said:
I am asking how well the ratings perform, how does the trifecta relate to this ?
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Let me re-phrase, "Also, which you appear to have missed is the winner in the first three races did not come from the first three top rated." The winner of these three races did not come in the top 3 Proform ratings, therefore the 60% you mention may not be quite correct. Just out of interest the winner in Race 4 was the top choice and in Race 7 the third choice. Two winners from seven races = 28% and two winners from 21 selections over the 7 races = 9.5%. The point being that the claim of 60% may not be quite correct however, the information is useful for people that know how to use it.

I do apologize for showing you the Trifecta, but you're not understanding so obviously a waste of both our time showing the opportunities with this part of the Proform database.
 
Spireite said:
Let me re-phrase, "Also, which you appear to have missed is the winner in the first three races did not come from the first three top rated." The winner of these three races did not come in the top 3 Proform ratings, therefore the 60% you mention may not be quite correct. Just out of interest the winner in Race 4 was the top choice and in Race 7 the third choice. Two winners from seven races = 28% and two winners from 21 selections over the 7 races = 9.5%. The point being that the claim of 60% may not be quite correct however, the information is useful for people that know how to use it.

I do apologize for showing you the Trifecta, but you're not understanding so obviously a waste of both our time showing the opportunities with this part of the Proform database.
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You certainly have wasted both our time because I didn`t ask if Proform could get up a random trifecta.
 
justmyluck1 said:
Thanks for that, I have signed up for a free trial, what is the difference between the HRB standard, example set and Like old HRB ratings ?
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I have no idea, I did know, but Chris did something to them years ago which I can't recall, sorry.
 
justmyluck1 said:
Does any one know how the HRB standard ratings supplied in the race cards perform ?, I understand Proform claim to have 60% winners from their top 3 rated and i was wondering how HRB compare.
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These ratings maybe amazing, I have no idea , so not dishing the ratings, but my comment would be what does 60% winners from their top 3 tell us.
In my opinion is tells us zilch , I mean I would hazard a guess that the top 3 in the market would reach 60%(just a guess can’t be bothered looking)
Also how fantastic is 60% in the top 3 when most races nowadays have about 4 runners or 5 runners.
Is betting their top 3 profitable, if it is then great , otherwise this claim means very little.
 
Many thanks mlmrob mlmrob,

Like me, many like to play in the valuable / large field flat handicaps.

In years 2021-2023 there were 153 x C2 FLAT handicap's (UK only) with 16 or more runners.

3128 runners in the 153 races.

84 (55%) of the races were won by those in the top 7 rated on HRB.

The top 7 qualifiers totalled 1087 (34%) of all the runners.

So half of these races in 2024 should be won by one of the 7 top rated in the race.

Looks a good way to narrow the field then the hard work starts.

Regards,
 
mlmrob said:
Top rated made 34 points profit in March.
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Not really talking about HRB I am sure he doesn’t make meaningless claims about percentage winners in the top 3 rated.
More Proform , I know nothing of these ratings and they could be the holy grail , I just find it hard when you know a claim like 60% in the first 3 could mean something very special or something of nothing.
 
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