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Beating the Price

Well i backed LADY HENSHAW WITH BET365 and VALDORO with betfair, about 24.0 but getting them to dead-heat is a nightmare.

VALDORO wins
LADY HENSHAW bled from the nose.
 
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markfinn said:
You just do it on BF exchange doubt normal amounts of activity will attract the account police ?
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I've been through this a few times in that bet365 will go up first, maybe an hour before any other bookie, very often COPYBET will follow before the rest show their cards, at this point there is no betfair so the movements are about opinions on the first show....365.
 
tacker said:
I've been through this a few times in that bet365 will go up first, maybe an hour before any other bookie, very often COPYBET will follow before the rest show their cards, at this point there is no betfair so the movements are about opinions on the first show....365.
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? Your options are are based on the the probabilities that reflect your chosen ratings - could be someone’s prices or any chosen ratings that equal aprox 100% - most will just gather their opinion and check against the current offerings if you think they are wrong you bet until you get the correction or get out of the market if you cannot see that happening - the problem is “Seeding” of the markets by those that are not interested in the race just the market. Sure that the computer science guys can add more to this subject than I can .
 
markfinn said:
? Your options are are based on the the probabilities that reflect your chosen ratings - could be someone’s prices or any chosen ratings that equal aprox 100% - most will just gather their opinion and check against the current offerings if you think they are wrong you bet until you get the correction or get out of the market if you cannot see that happening - the problem is “Seeding” of the markets by those that are not interested in the race just the market. Sure that the computer science guys can add more to this subject than I can .
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If people want a really interesting slant on this topic read the article b y filly in a SmartSig magazine from over 15 years ago
 
I don't know re the market as a whole but for the horses I'm interested in, I'd say on avg, unless you are sure it's a real hot potato, it's not worth looking at the UK market these days until after 8.00am cos they can go either way and later still for IRE races.
10+ yrs ago I'd be more inclined to bet early evening prices the day before.
 
markfinn said:
? Your options are are based on the the probabilities that reflect your chosen ratings - could be someone’s prices or any chosen ratings that equal aprox 100% - most will just gather their opinion and check against the current offerings if you think they are wrong you bet until you get the correction or get out of the market if you cannot see that happening - the problem is “Seeding” of the markets by those that are not interested in the race just the market. Sure that the computer science guys can add more to this subject than I can .
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I've never heard that word "seeding" used in this context of manipulating markets, i thought bookies might do it but not punters, live and learn.
 
The next Prem manager was always a market that was manipulated.

I see City's relegation odds have contracted over the last couple of hours.
 
The forum appears to have many new threads popping up that don't quite go anywhere and this thread looks like a perfect example of that.

BEATING THE PRICE.....Strikes me has being fundamental to a forum calling itself UK BETTING FORUM but is there a way to make it a reality ?
 
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