ATR's Ratings Hub

[Tufnel]

Anyone know how long ATR have been operating their Ratings Hub?

I'd not noticed it before because I only use their site for replays, past winners of races and future form. But I noticed it today but was curious how long it has been there and why the 3 ratings of speed, form and form plus are not shown on the main racecards or past races for the first 2 ratings.

And has anyone found them to be reliable guides?

 

[Ajit]

They" have not proven profitable or even all that predictive in isolation in my research.
I'd also question the inclusion of points for subjective things like "attitude".

I'm inclined to think they're primarily intended for 'mug punters'

 

[ARAZI91]

Anyone know how long ATR have been operating their Ratings Hub?

I'd not noticed it before because I only use their site for replays, past winners of races and future form. But I noticed it today but was curious how long it has been there and why the 3 ratings of speed, form and form plus are not shown on the main racecards or past races for the first 2 ratings.

And has anyone found them to be reliable guides?

They have been operating for around a year i think Tufnel
All the ratings are compiled by private handicapper Frankie Lynch who learned his trade working for Ian Heaney who is the CEO of The Racing App - Only know this because i know Ian who used to be the data editor at The Racing Post
you can see similarities in Frankies set up on ATR with the way ratings are done on The Racing App
Never used them as compile my own so don't know their worth - would imagine that punters of all levels access the ATR site and the old adage springs to mind that the more "public" information is.... then the less useful it becomes in terms of relating to "markets"

 

[ARAZI91]

They" have not proven profitable or even all that predictive in isolation in my research.
I'd also question the inclusion of points for subjective things like "attitude".

I'm inclined to think they're primarily intended for 'mug punters'

A Ajit
Only commercial set of ratings that i know of that have approached long term profitability (and has since long declined) was John Whitley's ratings back in the day.
John worked under Phil Bull at Timeform as timefigure manager but left as he was sick of Bull's commie rants and incessant cigar smoke filling the air. Not to mention that you could tell exactly what Bull had for his lunch just by looking at that beard.
Whitley is a certified genius - used to buy his yearly annuals just for the jockey ratings alone. The workings behind the algorithm he designed was truly ahead of the curve considering the era.

 

[Tufnel]

They have been operating for around a year i think Tufnel
All the ratings are compiled by private handicapper Frankie Lynch who learned his trade working for Ian Heaney who is the CEO of The Racing App - Only know this because i know Ian who used to be the data editor at The Racing Post
you can see similarities in Frankies set up on ATR with the way ratings are done on The Racing App
Never used them as compile my own so don't know their worth - would imagine that punters of all levels access the ATR site and the old adage springs to mind that the more "public" information is.... then the less useful it becomes in terms of relating to "markets"

Thanks for the info. I'm constantly surprised at the number of racing services available across the net outside of the big 3 sites and many of them free to use. Presumably the free ones are funded by ads and rewarded links. But acquiring the data feeds must be a significant cost for them.

I'm also presuming there that no services are simply scraping data, but paying for API services?

Seems like a fairly large market to support so many sites and apps.

 

[Ajit]

Thanks for the info. I'm constantly surprised at the number of racing services available across the net outside of the big 3 sites and many of them free to use. Presumably the free ones are funded by ads and rewarded links. But acquiring the data feeds must be a significant cost for them.

I'm also presuming there that no services are simply scraping data, but paying for API services?

Seems like a fairly large market to support so many sites and apps.

Lots of companies will be scraping data. Lots of informational sites are also built on local API responses with no need to scrape anything at all.