AINTREE 2024

rbtblb82 · Mar 25, 2024

Saturday 13/04/2024 – Aintree Grand National (4m 2f) (Prize Pool: £1,000,000)

I've only done up to 40/1, there are others listed but all over 50/1. I will update a bit nearer the time, and add the other big races for the meeting, or full race cards. VDW is the simplest method and just divides prize money by 1000 then divides by number of wins which should show class.

Horse Name	Odds	Age	Wgt.	Form	Rating	Trainer	Owner	OR	Prize £	Wins	VDW
Corach Rambler	6/1	10	11-2	411533	17	Lucinda Russell	The Ramblers	162	£666k	7	95
Vanillier	10/1	9	10-8	225502	26	Gavin Cromwell	H M Keaveney	150	£81k	3	27
I Am Maximus	10/1	8	11-2	411431	14	W P Mullins	JP McManus	164	£311k	5	62
Meetingofthewater	12/1	7	10-4	4311U3	22	W P Mullins	JP McManus	149	£117k	4	29
Panda Boy	11/1	8	10-3	F54424	29	Martin Brassil	Old Pals Partner	136	£30k	3	10
Mahler Mission	14/1	8	11-1	312F22	20	J C McConnell	Rockview Racing	155	£43k	4	11
Noble Yeats	14/1	9	11-8	447217	25	Emmett Mullins	R Waley-Cohen	165	£616k	7	88
Mr Incredible	14/1	8	10-7	PB23U2	34	W P Mullins	Paul Byrne	151	£15k	2	8
Kittys Light	16/1	8	10-3	147057	33	Christian Williams	R J Bedford	145	£280k	7	40
Capodanno	16/1	8	11-4	3P6314	27	W P Mullins	JP McManus	161	£172k	5	34
Galvin	20/1	10	10-12	62U854	35	Gordon Elliott	R A Bartlett	155	£242k	13	19
Limerick Lace	20/1	7	10-4	231211	10	Gavin Cromwell	JP McManus	154	£160k	7	23
Minella Indo	20/1	11	11-2	P1P144	30	H De Bromhead	Barry Maloney	159	£474k	8	59
Latenightpass	20/1	11	10-6	114215	14	Dan Skelton	Mrs P A Ellis	149	£52k	4	13
Chemical Energy	25/1	8	10-5	1142P6	24	Gordon Elliott	Bective Stud	147	£46k	6	8
Coko Beach	28/1	9	11-4	1P3121	16	Gordon Elliott	Gigginstown	161	£194k	7	28
Threeunderthrufive	33/1	9	10-13	684221	23	Paul Nicholls	McNeil Family	156	£182k	10	18
Delta Work	33/1	11	11-0	61U366	32	Gordon Elliott	Gigginstown	157	£537k	12	45
Nassalam	33/1	7	11-4	0741PP	42	Gary Moore	John Stone	161	£152k	7	22
Aint That A Shame	33/1	10	10-9	4109P1	35	H De Bromhead	Robcour	152	£65k	3	22
Monbeg Genius	33/1	8	10-4	13P35P	32	Jonjo O’Neill	Barrowman	145	£39k	5	8
Shakem Up’arry	33/1	10	10-0	34P611	35	Ben Pauling	Harry Redknapp	149	£147k	5	29
Adamantly Chosen	33/1	7	10-5	6P4071	38	W P Mullins	WatchThisSpace	150	£87k	5	17
Ash Tree Meadow	33/1	8	11-2	221141	11	Gordon Elliott	Alymer Stud	159	£214k	7	31
Stattler	40/1	9	11-1	22P624	26	W P Mullins	R A Bartlett	158	£93k	5	19
Conflated	40/1	10	11-9	P53UU3	38	Gordon Elliott	Gigginstown	162	£259k	7	37
Glengouly	40/1	8	10-3	FP5220	37	W P Mullins	Roaring Water	145	£26k	3	9
Where It All Began	40/1	8	9-6	P53214	25	Gordon Elliott	P & S Bryceland	135	£57k	2	29
Galia Des Liteaux	40/1	8	10-3	541224	18	Dan Skelton	Michael Ariss	146	£80k	4	20
James Du Berlais	40/1	8	10-9	434437	25	W P Mullins	Simon Munir	156	£160k	5	32
Famous Bridge	40/1	8	9-10	411PU4	30	N G Richards	Hemmings	138	£86k	6	14
Longhouse Poet	40/1	10	10-7	1U95PP	45	Martin Brassil	S & B Mulryan	145	£87k	6	15
Salvador Ziggy	40/1	8	10-11	11127P	22	Gordon Elliott	William Hurley	154	£58k	8	7
Fakir D’alene	40/1	9	10-0	B23BPP	45	Gordon Elliott	Bective Stud	138	£21k	3	7
Chambard	40/1	12	10-3	421P88	35	Venetia Williams	David Shaw	145	£180k	9	20

rbtblb82 · Mar 25, 2024

You probably want something that's low on the form rating and high on the VDW e.g. I Am Maximus.

formtheory · Mar 25, 2024

Hi R rbtblb82

Corach Ramblers ability would be 950.

It’s total win prize money = £665,095
Knock off the last two digits = £6650
Divide by total wins = 950

formtheory · Mar 25, 2024

I am Maximus would be 621.4

621 rounded down .

rbtblb82 · Mar 26, 2024

Thanks Formtheory, I'm no VDW expert, I just like to have a wee go to see if anything stands out - I divided prize money by 1000 to make the figures a bit smaller.

rbtblb82 · Apr 8, 2024

Horse Name	Odds	Age	Wgt.	Form	Rating	Trainer	Owner	OR	Prize £	Wins	VDW
Corach Rambler	5/1	10	11-2	411533	17	Lucinda Russell	The Ramblers	162	£666k	7	95
I Am Maximus	7/1	8	11-2	411431	14	W P Mullins	JP McManus	164	£311k	5	62
Vanillier	9/1	9	10-8	225502	26	Gavin Cromwell	H M Keaveney	150	£81k	3	27
Meetingofthewaters	11/1	7	10-4	4311U3	22	W P Mullins	JP McManus	149	£117k	4	29
Panda Boy	12/1	8	10-3	F54424	29	Martin Brassil	Old Pals Partner	136	£30k	3	10
Mr Incredible	12/1	8	10-7	PB23U2	34	W P Mullins	Paul Byrne	151	£15k	2	8
Mahler Mission	14/1	8	11-1	312F22	20	J C McConnell	Rockview Racing	155	£43k	4	11
Kittys Light	14/1	8	10-3	147057	33	Christian Williams	R J Bedford	145	£280k	7	40
Minella Indo	16/1	11	11-2	P1P144	30	H De Bromhead	Barry Maloney	159	£474k	8	59
Nassalam	18/1	7	11-4	0741PP	42	Gary Moore	John Stone	161	£152k	7	22
Noble Yeats	20/1	9	11-8	447217	25	Emmett Mullins	R Waley-Cohen	165	£616k	7	88
Limerick Lace	20/1	7	10-4	231211	10	Gavin Cromwell	JP McManus	154	£160k	7	23
Delta Work	25/1	11	11-0	61U366	32	Gordon Elliott	Gigginstown	157	£537k	12	45
Galia Des Liteaux	25/1	8	10-3	541224	18	Dan Skelton	Michael Ariss	146	£80k	4	20
Galvin	28/1	10	10-12	62U854	35	Gordon Elliott	R A Bartlett	155	£242k	13	19
Latenightpass	28/1	11	10-6	114215	14	Dan Skelton	Mrs P A Ellis	149	£52k	4	13
Stattler	28/1	9	11-1	22P624	26	W P Mullins	R A Bartlett	158	£93k	5	19
Capodanno	33/1	8	11-4	3P6314	27	W P Mullins	JP McManus	161	£172k	5	34
Chemical Energy	33/1	8	10-5	1142P6	24	Gordon Elliott	Bective Stud	147	£46k	6	8
Coko Beach	33/1	9	11-4	1P3121	16	Gordon Elliott	Gigginstown	161	£194k	7	28
Roi Mage	33/1	12	10-7	F27162	28	Patrick Griffin	D G Pryde	147	£336k	10	34

rbtblb82 · Apr 8, 2024

Desertmore House	40/1	9	10-4	711843	24	Martin Brassil	O B P Carroll	144	£132k	5	26
Shakem Up’arry	40/1	10	10-0	34P611	35	Ben Pauling	Harry Redknapp	149	£147k	5	29
Adamantly Chosen	40/1	7	10-5	6P4071	38	W P Mullins	WatchThisSpace	150	£87k	5	17
Malina Girl	40/1	7	10-5	01F725	35	Gavin Cromwell	J M Russell	144	£106k	6	18
Conflated	50/1	10	11-9	P53UU3	38	Gordon Elliott	Gigginstown	162	£259k	7	37
Aint That A Shame	50/1	10	10-9	4109P1	35	H De Bromhead	Robcour	152	£65k	3	22
Glengouly	50/1	8	10-3	FP5220	37	W P Mullins	Roaring Water	145	£26k	3	9
Mac Tottie	50/1	11	10-8	31P177	29	Peter Bowen	S & J Fleetham	146	£172k	9	19
Foxy Jacks	50/1	10	11-3	21P314	21	M F Morris	Rachel Carthy	157	£128k	5	26
The Goffer	50/1	7	10-7	P48585	40	Gordon Elliott	Allan Snow	144	£106k	4	27
Farouk Dalene	50/1	9	10-0	B23BPP	45	Gordon Elliott	Bective Stud	138	£21k	3	7
Chambard	50/1	12	10-3	421P88	35	Venetia Williams	David Shaw	145	£180k	9	20
Famous Bridge	66/1	8	9-10	411PU4	30	N G Richards	Hemmings	138	£86k	6	14
Eldorado Allen	66/1	10	10-13	54345P	31	Joe Tizzard	J P Romans	150	£107k	5	21
Run Wild Fred	66/1	10	10-9	359PBP	42	Gordon Elliott	Gigginstown	143	£79k	5	16
Iron Bridge	66/1	8	10-0	22P23P	29	Jonjo O’Neill	Hemmings	139	£32k	5	6
Annual Invictus	80/1	9	10-2	186417	27	Chris Gordon	T M Smith	143	£112k	8	14
Where It All Began	80/1	8	9-6	P53214	25	Gordon Elliott	P & S Bryceland	135	£57k	2	29
Janidil	80/1	10	11-5	17F230	33	W P Mullins	JP McManus	159	£154k	6	26
Amirite	80/1	8	10-2	3U3P45	34	H De Bromhead	Patrick Hale	138	£12k	2	6
Minella Crooner	80/1	8	10-9	P1P33P	37	Gordon Elliott	KTDA Racing	143	£37k	5	7

rbtblb82 · Apr 8, 2024

Updated list, if nothing else, it can be used to see the market movers.

rbtblb82 · Apr 11, 2024

Well this crept up on us, I'm not prepared for today at all, I'll just have to punt on big odds today and hope the ground is testing.

pawras · Apr 11, 2024

Real life is making horse racing take a back seat at moment, but here's my trial race stats for the 11/04/24 1455 Bowl Chase

Outlander · Apr 11, 2024

The handicapper seems to have given Corach Rambler a golden chance to follow up.
6 lb less than Noble Yeats when arguably he has done more
less weight than Nassalam, Coko Beach and Capadano, only 1 or 2 lb more than the likes of Mahler Mission, Foxy Jacks, Stattler.
Looks absolutely thrown in , it’s the Grand National , stuff can happen but 11/2 looks fair and they usually make a point of pushing them out a bit to look good in the morning papers.
When the realisation hits this horse could end up 11/4 fav tomorrow
Maybe I’m reading this wrong but on paper I can’t remember a returning winner treated so leniently.

rbtblb82 · Apr 12, 2024

Red Rum carried 12-0 in 1974 and won, since then, Corbiere carried 11-04 and won 1983, Don't Push It carried 11-05 and won 2010, Neptune Collonges carried 11-06 and won 2012, Many Clouds carried 11-09 and won 2015 and Tiger Roll carried 11-05 and won 2019, otherwise, all winners have been 11-0 or less.

The last 8 years have been won by horses 9 or under, so I'm going for 10 and 11 year olds this year (low in the weights).

rbtblb82 · Apr 12, 2024

Alex Ferguson has 5 horses over today and tomorrow, and since Protektorat and Monmiral came in at Cheltenham I think I'll put it on, although, I doubt many horses that won at Cheltenham will win again at Aintree, Cheltenham could have taken it out of them a bit.

Sonigino 14/1 @ 14:20 today
Protektorat 7/2 @ 15:30 today
Grandads Cottage 22/1 @ 16:05 today (Sean Bowen riding and fancies his chances)
Monmiral 15/2 @ 13:20 tomorrow
Caldwell Potter 9/4 @ 13:55 tomorrow (Purchased for £634k)

rbtblb82 · Apr 12, 2024

I keep looking at it and I don't actually fancy any of them, nothing stands out, so I think I'm going with heart over head and hoping that Kitty's Light wins it for little Betsy, I think that would be the most satisfying win this year, so I'm lumping on Kitty's Light and hoping to share in the joy if he wins.

Good Luck to all.

pawras · Apr 13, 2024

Well can't see any trial race info worth taking note of for the Grand National

My top 3 are

Corach Rambler (IRE)
I Am Maximus (FR)
Noble Yeats (IRE)

Will probably add Minella Indo

And go ew on all 4 to 7 places if betfred are doing that in the shop and not just online

Jackform · Apr 13, 2024

My reputation as a tipster lies with this as my family expects me to select the top three in correct order, which seems hardly fair

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Aintree 4.0pm (Nat Cse Soft with some GS) Market odds from 9am.
5. I Am Maximus 17* (15/2) Tips 0, LTO 49? WP Mullins 21%, cls? -6lb
7. Corach Rambler 12* (8/1) Tips 3, LTO 29, CD*, L Russell 6%? =cls, -4lb
25. Limerick Lace 16* (10/1) Tips 0, LTO 29, G Cromwell 17%, =cls, -8lb
31. Panda Boy 8 (11/1) Tips 2
10. Mahler Mission 8 (12/1) Tips 4
17. Vanillier 3 (12/1) Tips 0, G Cromwell 17%

MY comment: 1 pt each the top three named just for interest.
ATR form verdict in comparison with the above.
Last year's winner Corach Rambler returns to defend his crown after producing a terrific effort to place in the Gold Cup. Officially 3lb well-in, the main concern for his defence would be the combination of a 13lb rise and conditions being more testing than ideal. Irish National winner I Am Maximus and Ultima third Meetingofthewaters head a strong team for Willie Mullins and JP McManus. The former has since won a Grade 1 novice back at Fairyhouse and warmed up with a convincing victory over Vanillier in the Bobbyjo. That being said, while Aintree can bring out the best in quirkier types, it remains to be seen how he handles this experience and his stablemate, winner of the Paddy Power at Leopardstown over Christmas, may prove best of the Mullins contingent. However, it is another McManus contender who has plenty going for her in the shape of LIMERICK LACE. Attempting to become the first mare since Nickel Coin in 1951 to win the race, she arrives having enjoyed a terrific season with confidence sky-high after landing the Mares' Chase at the Cheltenham Festival. She qualified to run here when runner-up in the Troytown and it seems significant that her full-brother Inothewayurthinkin improved plenty for stepping up in trip when taking the Kim Muir. Others likely to be popular on the day include Mr Incredible, who appeared unlucky when unseating at the Canal Turn last year, 2022 winner Noble Yeats and Delta Work.

Top Tip: LIMERICK LACE (25)
Watch out for: MEETINGOFTHEWATERS (26)

Jackform · Apr 13, 2024

Remainder of mine for Aintree day 3. Market odds around 10.5am.

1.20 Cuthbert Dibble 15 (15/2), Gwennie May Boy 14 (9/1)
1.55 Brighterdaysahead 18 (1/1), Jimmy Du Sueil 16 (11/4), Ile Antlantique 11 (4/1)
2.30 Crebilly 18 (18/5), Frorward Plan 14 (13/2)
5.00 Found And Fifty 16 (9/2), Hercule Du Sueil 16 (11/2), Etalon 16 (8/1)

gerry · Apr 13, 2024

There is one i think could have a squeak if the ground is as testing as they said it will be COKO BEACH loves it soft has run before and just might plod its way to go well today.

pawras · Apr 13, 2024

pawras said:
Well can't see any trial race info worth taking note of for the Grand National

My top 3 are

Corach Rambler (IRE)
I Am Maximus (FR)
Noble Yeats (IRE)

Will probably add Minella Indo

And go ew on all 4 to 7 places if betfred are doing that in the shop and not just online

1st and 3rd, that'll do me

stedz · Apr 13, 2024

Backed it before it won the Bobby joe ,at 25/1.

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