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Under/over 2.5 goals - 100 bets record

MaxiStavros

Yearling
I will be placing 100 £10 under/over bets - always picking a match I fancy to be over 2.5 goals BUT if my previous bet ended up under 2.5 goals I will be betting against my pick (£10 on under 2.5 goals). If my previous bet ended up over 2.5 goals I will be betting on my pick (£10 on over 2.5 goals). I will record every bet here and keep a profit/loss record.

I wrote about this on a previous thread although got negative feedback but I absolute believe it is an optimal strategy. I have tested this against thousands of bets I have recorded over the past year and I would be far more profitable than simply betting on my pick. So if you want to criticise well do so after 100 bets.

Bet 1 = I fancy Cobreloa v Santiago Wanderers - Chile Liga de Ascenso, 26/10/2025 18:00 = Over 2.5 = 1.80, Under 2.5 = 1.90 Bet365.
I lost my previous bet so I am betting on under 2.5 goals @ 1.90.
 
Bet 1 = Cobreloa 2-0 Santiago Wanderers = My pick lost - but my bet won = £9.00 profit. Had I bet on my pick I would be £10 down.
It means my next bet I will again bet betting against my pick.

Bet 2 = El Nacional v Macara. I fancy over 2.5 goals in this game in Ecuador, kick off 8:30pm.
Over 2.5 goals = odds of 2.16 on the Betfair Exchange.
Under 2.5 goals = odds of 1.84 on the Betfair Exchange.

Bet 2 = £10 on under 2.5 goals @ 1.84.
 
Bet 2 = El Nacional 2-0 Macara = My pick lost yet again but bet won. £8.40 - £0.17 commission = £8.23 profit. Total profit = £17.23. Had I bet on both my picks I would be £20 down.
Next bet I will again bet against my pick.

Bet 3 = Santas Laguna v Queretaro - Mexico, kick off 23:00. I fancy over 2.5 goals again on this.
Over 2.5 goals = 1.85 on the Betfair Exchange
Under 2.5 goals = 2.14 on the Betfair Exchange

Bet 3 = £10 on under 2.5 goals @ 2.14
 
Bet 3 = Santas Laguna 3-1 Queretaro = My pick won but bet lost = -£10. Total profit = £7.23.
Had I bet on my picks I would be -£11.67.
Next bet I will bet on my pick

Bet 4 = Malmo v Hammarby, Sweden Allsvenskan, kick off 18:10. I fancy over 2.5 goals on this.
Over 2.5 goals = 1.90 on the Betfair Exchange
Under 2.5 goals = 2.1 on the Betfair Exchange

Bet 4 = £10 on over 2.5 goals @ 1.90.
 
..... there does not seem to be much science involved in this type of betting. In fact it looks to me that it is simply down to pot luck whether there is a win or a loss. I prefer a bit of logic when betting myself. As for getting much feedback you will find that this site is more of a horsey site and there will be long periods when you are ploughing a lone furrow. ;)
 
Well I kind of disagree with you Delboy but I am grateful for your comments. I am picking my over 2.5 goal picks looking at form, league position, head to head results, how many players in each team are capable of scoring goals, how decent each defence is, how good the league is for goals, what each team will be aiming for from the match and a general feel of how I think the game is going based on what I know about the teams. I am putting effort into looking into a match. But I know I must be missing some key things because I 100% accept I have not cracked the code on how to be profitable from this (that is if there is an answer out there). But the point of switching between betting on or against my picks is to capitalise on winning and losing streaks and how hot and cold goals are running. I have a friend who is really into betting and he is convinced games have lots more goals in the summer than winter, I am not sure if that is true but if it is true then switching my picks can take advantage of such a thing. Betting on my picks this year I had some amazing months where I made excellent returns, however I had other months where I had disaster months betting on my picks. How do you explain that? If you are picking bets based on the same method why are they having enormous swings in success?My thinking is - why am I not capitalising on this - if I am having terrible months where I am losing so many bets, why am I not switching and betting against my picks? One argument I would make is - imagine I was so rubbish at picking over 2.5 goals bets that 90% of my picks lost long term - is that a disaster? Well no it is not, quite clearly if I am picking an enormous amount of losers I have found a way to find under 2.5 goal bets and I should be betting on it and cleaning up.
I am recording the profit/loss of how my picks are doing if I just bet on my pick so people can see how I am really doing but I think it will be interesting for people (including me) to see how it compares to switching for or against my own picks based on how hot or cold I am running.

Yes I gather that there isn't a great deal of football betting contributors here. I used to post on the bettingadvice forum but it has disappeared. I do like horse racing betting but nowadays I only enjoy betting on the big races - the Derby, Breeders Cup, Arc De Triomphe, Melbourne Cup, Kentucky Derby, etc. I am not interested in betting on the racing on a weekend or weekday because firstly the racing post limited how much form you can see but when I used to bet on horses I'd spend ages looking through a race card and looking at the form of each horse and form of horses it ran against and after spending 20-30 mins looking at the race card and picking a horse, the race was over in 2 mins. At least with football you get to follow a game for an hour and a half.

I don't mind if no one really replies - writing on here will keep me disciplined and if I get to see a few people who have a passion for football betting and wanting to be profitable from it I am getting something from being here.
 
M MaxiStavros can i just point out that if you're disappointed with the amount of interaction then join the club.
Don't simply concentrate on your own thread, have a look around and you will notice this thread is little different from many other threads.
Keep at it bud but can i also suggest you respond to other threads.
 
Bet 4 = Malmo 1-3 Hammerby = My pick won and bet won = £9.00 - £0.18 commission = £8.82 profit = Total profit = £16.05.
Had I bet on my picks I would be -£2.85

Bet 5 = Colo Colo v Limache, Chile Liga De Primera, kick off 21:00. I fancy over 2.5 goals on this.
Over 2.5 goals = 1.74 on the Betfair Exchange
Under 2.5 goals = 2.30 on the Betfair Exchange

Bet 5 = £10 on over 2.5 goals @ 1.74
 
Bet 4 = Malmo 1-3 Hammerby = My pick won and bet won = £9.00 - £0.18 commission = £8.82 profit = Total profit = £16.05.
Had I bet on my picks I would be -£2.85

Bet 5 = Colo Colo v Limache, Chile Liga De Primera, kick off 21:00. I fancy over 2.5 goals on this.
Over 2.5 goals = 1.74 on the Betfair Exchange
Under 2.5 goals = 2.30 on the Betfair Exchange

Bet 5 = £10 on over 2.5 goals @ 1.74
…. I am not disagreeing with what goes into it initially. What I think is odd is that if the initial selection goes down, you immediately reverse The initial selection and back the reverse of what you have previously chosen.
 
Bet 5 = Colo Colo 2-1 Limache after 88 mins = My pick won and bet won = £7.40 - £0.15 commission = £7.25 profit. Total profit = £23.30
Had I bet on all my own picks = £4.40 profit.
Next bet I will again bet on my own pick.

Bet 6 = Nacional Asuncion v Cerro Porteno, Paraguay, 23:00 kick off.
Over 2.5 goals = 2.24 on the Betfair Exchange
Under 2.5 goals = 1.75 on the Betfair Exchange

Bet 6 = £10 on over 2.5 goals @ 2.24
 
…. I am not disagreeing with what goes into it initially. What I think is odd is that if the initial selection goes down, you immediately reverse The initial selection and back the reverse of what you have previously chosen.
Oh I see what you mean. But I have thought about ideas about how to determine when I should switch to betting against my picks and there is no easy answer. There are definitely flaws in it such as when the results are (O = Over, U = Under) U, O, U, O, U, O. But doing samples on my past bets I do believe it is more profitable than just backing all my own picks. Typically I am hitting somewhere between 40% - 60% success for every 100 bets. Therefore I am going to lose anywhere between 40-60 bets per 100 games and win anywhere between 40-60 bets per 100 games and the aim is how to capitalise on both rather than just accept I am going to lose 40 - 60 bets?
 
Bet 6 = Nacional Asuncion 1-2 Cerro Porteno = My pick won and bet won = £12.40 - £0.25 commission = £12.15 profit. Total profit = £35.45.
Had I bet on all my own picks I would be £16.55 in profit.
Next bet I will again bet on my own pick.

Bet 7 = Mansfield v Plymouth, England League 1, Kick off 19:45
Over 2.5 goals = 1.89 on the Betfair Exchange
Under 2.5 goals = 2.10 on the Betfair Exchange

Bet 7 = £10 on over 2.5 goals @ 1.89.
 
You say you get 40 to 60 winners every 100 bets. 100 bets is a very small sample size.

How many winners would you get over a 1,000, 5,000 or 10,000 bets? Let's say you achieve 50% strike rate over 10,000 selections. Now you have established a good baseline that you can monitor.

Short term results over a 100 bet period will not affect your long term strike rate by much. For example if you lost your next 100 bets your long term strike rate only falls to 49.5%.

What you could do is track your short term strike rate using your last 100 bets and only back your selections when your short term strike rate is on the rise and stop when it is falling.

Basically look up reversion to the mean for more info and examples.
 
Thanks ArkRoyal, that's an interesting idea about betting when running well and easing off when short term success rate is on the decline, something I may look at doing, I certainly want to do more to either exploit running cold or limit the impact of running cold. I think it is something that is overlooked when it comes to betting.
Interesting the reversion to the mean, just started reading on it, this is the sort of thing I am interested in when it comes to betting. I really regret not doing mathematic statistics in my higher education years as I think it would be useful for my betting and in recent years I have seen some great jobs in sports betting companies where they want candidates with degrees in Statistics. I would love a job in sports betting but unfortunately do not have the relevant qualifications to open doors.
Between August 2024 and September 2025 I did record 4050 bets where I fancied the game to have over 1.5 goals, to use as a base to look into over 1.5 goals, over 2.5 goals and BTTS bets. When I say bets - I started off only recording bets which I put money on but then to start getting a far bigger database I started including games I fancied to have over 1.5 goals but didn't end up putting money on them just due to the vast number of matches each week. On my s/s I recorded odds of over 1.5 goals, 2.5 goals, BTTS, Home win odds, draw odds, away odds, time of 1st goal, time of 2nd goal, half time score, full time score, home team goals in second half, away team goals second half, total goals second half and league. I was hoping I was creating a cheat sheet and I could sort the data in terms of home team odds and over 1.5 or 2.5 goals odds and see how successful these matches were in terms of goal bets or looking at half time score and then checking what happened in games where home team odds and over 1.5/over 2.5 goal odds were the same to see where there was value. There were certainly patterns and some odds which had lots of goals and other odds which had very few goals but at the same time a lot just seemed random and I started to feel that there was a lot more to it than assuming all matches which have the same odds can be treated in the same way. But it also helped me track how many winners I was selecting and the swings in good and bad form and testing ideas about switching between backing my picks and laying my picks. From 4050 bets = 1982 ended under 2.5 goals, 2068 ended over 2.5 goals. Average odds of over 1.5 goals was 1.33 (using betfred's odds) and 2.0 for over 2.5 goals. Typically in those 4050 bets I recorded I was winning between 40-60 bets for each 100 bets. But it is very clear that winning and losing streaks are real, why it happens I am not sure, maybe it is just basic standard sample data, I am sure if I spun a coin 4000 times I'd have runs where I spin 20 heads in 25 spins and then vica versa with tails. I personally don't believe I am going to crack the code of finding a 10% ROI by mastering how to select a match which has over 2.5 goals but I am hoping I may be able to do it by exploiting trends.
 
Bet 7 = Mansfield 2-0 Plymouth = My pick lost and bet lost = -£10.00. Total profit = £25.45.
Had I bet on all my own picks I would be £6.55 in profit.
Next bet I will bet against my pick.

Bet 8 = Juventus v Udinese, Italy Serie A, Kick off 17:30. I fancy over 2.5 goals in this match.
Over 2.5 goals = 1.85 on the Betfair Exchange
Under 2.5 goals = 2.16 on the Betfair Exchange

Bet 8 = £10 on under 2.5 goals @ 2.16
 
...... should the loss not be £20 as I thought you were putting £10 per bet and two losses make £20. ;)
No. Am I confusing things by saying my pick won or lost? My pick is simply what I fancy to win - i.e. over 2.5 goals in the Mansfield game. But every match I place one £10 bet and it is based on whether the previous match was under or over.
So my latest pick was Juventus match to have over 2.5 goals and it won but my bet lost - so I lost £10.
Does it make sense?
 
No. Am I confusing things by saying my pick won or lost? My pick is simply what I fancy to win - i.e. over 2.5 goals in the Mansfield game. But every match I place one £10 bet and it is based on whether the previous match was under or over.
So my latest pick was Juventus match to have over 2.5 goals and it won but my bet lost - so I lost £10.
Does it make sense?
..... ok I'll live with it! ;)
 
Bet 8 = Juventus 2-1 Udinese = My pick won but bet lost = -£10.00. Total profit = £15.45.
Had I bet on all my own picks I would be £14.88 in profit.
Next bet I will bet on my pick.

Bet 9 = Arsenal v Brighton, England EFL cup, Kick off 19:45. I fancy over 2.5 goals in this match.
Over 2.5 goals = 1.82 on the Betfair Exchange
Under 2.5 goals = 2.18 on the Betfair Exchange

Bet 9 = £10 on over 2.5 goals @ 1.82.
(I am only placing one £10 bet per match)
 
Bet 9 = Arsenal 2-0 Brighton = My pick lost and bet lost = -£10.00. Total profit = £5.45.
Had I bet on all my own picks I would be £4.88 in profit.
Next bet I will bet against my pick.

Bet 10 = Ind Medellin v Atletico Bucaramanga, Colombia Primera A, Kick off 23:10. I fancy over 2.5 goals in this match.
Over 2.5 goals = 1.95 on the Betfair Exchange
Under 2.5 goals = 2.02 on the Betfair Exchange

Bet 10 = £10 on under 2.5 goals @ 2.02
 
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