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Betting Style and Frequency

What's your betting style? Favourite type(s) of bet? What stakes do you put on-big/small? Do you back favourites or outsiders? Do you back jockeys, trainers or owners? Just horses you like the name of? Or have a connection to you somehow? Speed? Form? None of these? What's your betting frequency-everyday/weekend etc.? What sites to you use? Do you have limits?

For me, I like a good jockey/trainer combination, or simply a jockey double/trixie.
I'm also a sucker for same shirt/owner acca's, but I appreciate they don't come in that often, I just love it when they do.
I usually bet every day, anywhere from 10-100 bets per day, I can have 10 pages of bets open on SkyBet, which is my favourite site.
My stakes are usually fairly small, I'm not one for putting a £50 single, double or treble on, if I want a big bet it's more like £5 or £10 win or E/W.
I tend to only go for horses that are 5/1 and above, and avoid favourites. I will back a favourite if I like it and there's a few others I like, I'll do a win yankee. But I just think it's so much more disappointing when you need a favourite to win and it's useless, if you're 16/1 comes last you're nowhere near as disappointed, so I go for outsiders, you can only be pleasantly surprised by an outsider.
I try to hit multiples to bring in big amounts, and will play £0.10 E/W acca's, or put 7 horses in with big odds and play E/W doubles, or 3/4 big odds horses and play a small stakes E/W trixie or yankee.

So small stakes and combine multiple horses is how I try to win big, e.g. I had a nine-fold at Cheltenham, 3 favourites from day 1, day 2 and day 3, all won day 1 and day 2 but all lost day 3 - I had £0.10 E/W on it, and after day 1 and day 2 I was on for £8k, my mate stuck £100 on a treble on the same 3 favourites day 3 and would have only won £1,600, all 3 lost so he lost £100, but I only lost £0.10. I think my way is better as you lose less - he lost £2,400 at Cheltenham, I lost £36. I think small stakes are better and less risky, you just have to hit 4+ horses for a good return, but if you don't, you haven't lost much and try again the next day.

Finally, I will overlap bets e.g. I might have Oisin Murphy and William Buick, even if they're at the same place and my bets conflict - I'll have two bets on knowing that only 1 can come in, but I wonder if that's stupid and I'm wasting a bet? Should I just pick one or the other (or mix them together) and only have 1 bet? Would you put two bets on that conflict, knowing that 1 is guaranteed to lose?
 
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are you making a profit each day ? that would be my question or are you doing it for fun ? if the latter and you getting a profit well done
if not and you are not doing it for fun. You need to change and the first thing is PAD (patience and discipline) very good together and very hard to learn and if your seriously want to make it pay you need these to become just automatic and learned by heart as i said if you do it for fun and enjoy it keep it
 
I think its crazy to bet on things just because you like names colours or what ever. Even trainer following is silly what if hes out of form why would you follow him regardless dosnt make sense , or jockey with no winners in last month just dosnt make sense to me any way.
So what do i do well first of all there needs to be some form link to think its got chance in todays race , all my bets will have form link to them then if jockey who is on it is riding well at time even better or trainer is getting good results notice i didnt say lots of winners just running better than they should.
Then once i have got what i think have chance for tomorrow i will then analyse them alittle more putting them in order of chance maybe deleting a few out and seeing what i am left with.
After i have my bets for tomorrow i will now sitt wondering what do i bet them in, As i am not worried about betting singles or some multi bets but one of the things i have noticed over years is mixing bets from differant tracks can go pair shaped and usually the reason is the going changed on one of the tracks.
I think for me any way and this helps in discipline is once i have analysed what i am betting and how i am placing them i do it all at same time some time night before but now wait to morning usually as bog changed.
And it dosnt matter how the day is going good or bad there on and thats it till next day, I think this is one of the most important tips you can get exspecially in the day of betting at home where it is so easy to chase and if you place any bet after there on its chasing no matter what you convince your self as you would have noted them other wise the night before.
Ok there might be one your waiting to see going on the day before final bet in morning but that is noted down the night before so no changes made .
So what kind of bets do i place well i am old fashioned so i would normally bet a yankee more than lucky fifteen as i am not keen on the same money on doubles as trebles i would sooner have more on doubles less on trebles even less on accum.
The only way i bet lucky fifteens is if one winner gives me at least double stake back.
I would never over lap because of jockey or trainer but i might dutch two horses if i honestly thought was two horse race on form and was making profit with either winning.
But with out doubt if your really in to your betting the biggest tip you can ever get is dont chase as your not betting what you fancy then your betting what you need to get back and life dosnt work like that.
Take your time enjoy it stick to a routine as its true we all feel comfortable in a routine and once out of one were insecure.
 
Take your time enjoy it stick to a routine as its true we all feel comfortable in a routine and once out of one were insecure.
I think this is good advice for any backer, i call it MO but same difference, and gerry gerry one sentence includes several important aspects.

Take your time : Imo the very best punter friendly innovation in recent years has been the 48 hr decs. These do buy the time to enable us to take our time.

Enjoy and routine : Both are important and connected because once you have found a routine which suits it should increase your enjoyment of the work you will need to do.

Comfort - insecurity : Finding and staying within your own comfort zones will help swerve the insecure feelings which can cause poor decisions.


Over time and generally with much trial and error we eventually find a routine which suits and for myself this was a big step forward, like completing the foundations of a house. Mine occurred many years ago and the Roof still leaks but at least it is in place. :)
 
Thanks for the feedback. My return rate is 92.8% (for every £100 staked I get £92.80 back). I have good days, weeks, months and bad days, weeks and months. I am usually down overall / in the long run, but not by much, and I do play for fun, I enjoy horse racing. I really like the satisfaction I get from making the right selection and seeing greens on my bet slip, I enjoy that more than the cash to be honest, that might be strange to some people but it is fun for me. I have friends that spend what I spend a week gambling on night in the pub, and when I win I get a free gamble, they never get a free night in the pub, so it's my entertainment and it's worth it, I think. Plus I have many many chances at big money, and like most gamblers, I'm sure I'm going to hit a really big one some day. This time next year Rodney!

I have mates that laugh when I say I had £1 or £2 or even £5 E/W on a horse, and they will share their bets with me on WhatsApp where they've put £160 on a E/W trixie, but it loses and they lose £160 in one go, I just can't do that, I'd much rather have a £1 E/W trixie and only lose £8. And from my experience, my way is better as all my mates who bet big lose far more money than I do. A lot of my mates are tradesman, they get paid well but are skint by Monday, mostly from gambling.

I usually stick all my bets on the night before but I cash them out instantly for no fee, then after all the non runners have been declared (even though we always get loads more!), I stick my favourite bets on. It's just that I get carried away sometimes. And even though one of my rules is not to overlap bets, I can't resist sometimes, even though I know both can't come in and it's a waste of a bet. That's probably the one area I could improve on, if I reduced my overlapped bets I'd increase my winnings.

Other than that, I sometimes get my stakes wrong, I put a small amount on a 25/1 and a big amount on a 7/1, the 7/1 doesn't even place and the 25/1 romps home, if I'd just put the same stake on both horses, or just back myself and go for it with the 25/1, I think I'd go from 92% to over a 100% and be in profit most of the time, and then get I'd blocked 😆
 
R rbtblb82 your above reads as a good honest appraisal of your own punting strengths and needs, and most would learn from conducting simular. What i especially liked is your comment about enjoying what you are doing while accepting that at present you are paying for your fun. Although my own MO is the opposite i see nothing wrong with being what are now called recreational punters other than when they start complaining that there fun is costing too much and yet still continue in the same vein.
 
I do have days that are frustrating sometimes, but it's mostly good fun. And most of my lamentations are geared around a few specific things, some I have no control over, but some I can change e.g. poor decisions, zigging instead of zagging, not staking the right amount, losing early in the day then hitting later in the day but I haven't got much left to stake, non runners and rule deductions (no control), and near misses (got pipped on the line or fell at the final hurdle/fence when clear).

I have only been betting on the horses since lockdown and I've tried a few methods up to now (trainers, jockeys, owners, favourites, form etc.), but came to the conclusion that none of them really work, mixing it up is the best way. So I am going to try and start sticking to my rules more - not overlapping bets, not playing as many jockey, trainer or owner combinations, and mixing it up more.
 
What's your betting style? Favourite type(s) of bet? What stakes do you put on-big/small? Do you back favourites or outsiders? Do you back jockeys, trainers or owners? Just horses you like the name of? Or have a connection to you somehow? Speed? Form? None of these? What's your betting frequency-everyday/weekend etc.? What sites to you use? Do you have limits?

For me, I like a good jockey/trainer combination, or simply a jockey double/trixie.
I'm also a sucker for same shirt/owner acca's, but I appreciate they don't come in that often, I just love it when they do.
I usually bet every day, anywhere from 10-100 bets per day, I can have 10 pages of bets open on SkyBet, which is my favourite site.
My stakes are usually fairly small, I'm not one for putting a £50 single, double or treble on, if I want a big bet it's more like £5 or £10 win or E/W.
I tend to only go for horses that are 5/1 and above, and avoid favourites. I will back a favourite if I like it and there's a few others I like, I'll do a win yankee. But I just think it's so much more disappointing when you need a favourite to win and it's useless, if you're 16/1 comes last you're nowhere near as disappointed, so I go for outsiders, you can only be pleasantly surprised by an outsider.
I try to hit multiples to bring in big amounts, and will play £0.10 E/W acca's, or put 7 horses in with big odds and play E/W doubles, or 3/4 big odds horses and play a small stakes E/W trixie or yankee.

So small stakes and combine multiple horses is how I try to win big, e.g. I had a nine-fold at Cheltenham, 3 favourites from day 1, day 2 and day 3, all won day 1 and day 2 but all lost day 3 - I had £0.10 E/W on it, and after day 1 and day 2 I was on for £8k, my mate stuck £100 on a treble on the same 3 favourites day 3 and would have only won £1,600, all 3 lost so he lost £100, but I only lost £0.10. I think my way is better as you lose less - he lost £2,400 at Cheltenham, I lost £36. I think small stakes are better and less risky, you just have to hit 4+ horses for a good return, but if you don't, you haven't lost much and try again the next day.

Finally, I will overlap bets e.g. I might have Oisin Murphy and William Buick, even if they're at the same place and my bets conflict - I'll have two bets on knowing that only 1 can come in, but I wonder if that's stupid and I'm wasting a bet? Should I just pick one or the other (or mix them together) and only have 1 bet? Would you put two bets on that conflict, knowing that 1 is guaranteed to lose?
I like the thread Title and therefore also the thread - generally now it is singles bets on BF fore me - will always be trying to back more than one in the race - simple but I find it effective
 
Some good points here.
Funnily enough I have recently been experimenting with a different approach elsewhere on here, using each way betting, but I have come to the conclusion that I don't feel that it suits me so I have gone back to win only bets.

As has already been said, everyone has their own personal approach and you should stick to what you're happy with.
 
I sometimes swap between win only and E/W. I started off only placing win bets, but as I went for bigger odds I changed to E/W. You might as well go for the win really, it's the only thing that brings in the good money.

I've mixed it a bit more today, stuck two doubles I like together (Ms J Bennett double + Walters Plant Hire/Twiston-Daves/S Thomas double)

= Knockamore 6/1 @ 13:40 Ffos Las (won) + Jane Du Berlais 13/2 @ 14:15 Ffos Las (just pulled up) + Jazz King 3/1 @ 14:50 Ffos Las + Prince Des Finchaux 11/4 @ 15:25 Ffos Las

But at least I've mixed two together, so if each only hits one I'll get a double (win Yankee due to the odds).
 
Small win mixing my two doubles today - won, pulled up, withdrawn/void, won - £1 win Yankee = £30.75 returned

AMO Racing just won their 2nd race of the day, still got one more horse in my trixie later at Wolves, but should be profit for me today 👍
 
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