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What are the most important factors to analyse to predict over 2.5 goals?

MaxiStavros

Yearling
I am trying to focus on one particular type of bet and I think the over 2.5 goals bet is a really good market, it has only two outcomes unlike trying to predict the result of a match or awful betbuilders and the odds allow the opportunity to find value and explore other ideas such as backing against your picks if you find your picks are not profitable.

But it is not an easy bet, typical average odds of around even money reflects a 50% chance of a bet winning and England League 1 is a good example of how evenly matched under/over 2.5 goals are - last season there were 277 over 2.5 goal matches v 275 under 2.5 goal matches and the previous season 275 over 2.5 goal matches v 277 under 2.5 goal matches.

Goals are one of the hardest thing to come by in football (after penalties awarded and red cards) and the third goal is possibly the hardest goal to come by as at 1-1 both teams typically balance defence and attack, whilst at 2-0 a lot of home teams just try and close the game down, playing tight and protecting their lead. 0-2 is potentially a favourable scoreline for a 3rd goal as the home team are expected to attack more and may be vulnerable to a counter attack.

But how do you predict what matches will have over 2.5 goals and have value? Having placed thousands of bets on this market it has been crazy how many games that should be full of goals end up 0-0, 1-0 or 0-1, whilst matches that look to be low scoring games based on recent form do have over 2.5 goals.

I am hoping by starting this post we can get people’s ideas of what factors are most important to consider when trying to predict if a match will have over 2.5 goals to try and form a model/system for picking profitable bets?

Here is a list of factors that I think are relevant, although how relevant is debatable.

(1) How good is the league for goals? There are some leagues around the world which are really poor for goals – Iran, Argentina Primera National, Primera B and C, Italy Serie C, Brazil Serie B. Whilst leagues such as Australia A League, Dutch leagues, Norway OBOS, England Premier League have so many goals.

(2) Current form of both teams and what type of form for the home and away teams are most indicative to producing goals?

(3) Where in the league both teams are. You generally see when an away team is a lot lower in the league than the home team that they are more likely to have the mindset of parking the bus. Also two teams at the top of the league often creates a stalemate. What sort of league positions for both teams creates most likely scenario for goals?

(4) Typically how many goals are in the home team's recent past home games and vica versa with the away team?

(5) How does the home team generally set up at home against similar opposition?

(6) How does the away team generally set up away from home against similar opposition?

(7) How strong a home team’s attack is and ability to score goals? Are their strikers on form and are they creating chances?

(8) How strong an away team’s attack is and ability to score goals and create chances?

(9) How strong a home team’s defence is and ability to keep a clean sheet?

(10) How strong an away team’s defence is and ability to keep a clean sheet?

(11) Head to head past results - if one team is stronger than the other and typically do the games have goals or not?

(12) How each team is set up tactically for the match – are they set up to be attacking, balanced or defensive?

(13) How does the home team usually do against similar opposition?

(14) How does the away team usually do against similar opposition?

(15) What result will each team be happy with – if a team would be happy to get a draw they are likely to play tight and hard to break down?

(16) The weather and time of year? Warmer months and weather typically are favourable for goals.

(17) Is it a local derby?

Have I missed anything? Which factors do you believe are most relevant or not relevant? Would appreciate any responses.
 
Personally speaking if I were to consider 17 reasons or more for trying to select over 2.5 goals, I would be either giving up or going round the bend. Far too time consuming in my opinion for little reward.
 
No you are right Delboy but I’m hoping to rule out as many as I can and pinpoint which of the above do matter.
This afternoon I had 5 over 2.5 goal bets - Newcastle v Fulham (1.86) won, Middlesbrough v Wrexham (2.00) lost, Sheff Wed v Oxford (2.08) won, Northampton v Luton (2.46) lost and Swindon v Colchester (1.63) lost. I was most confident on the Middlesbrough and Swindon games but both lost. The Swindon game I can’t find many reasons why this would be 0-0. Head to head suggested plenty of goals. Swindon at home had scored 2 or more goals in 6 of their last 7 home games and have the top scorer in the league in great form. Swindon only had kept 1 clean sheet in their 7 home games this season. Colchester had not kept a clean sheet in any of their last 12 games and scored 13 goals in their last 4 league games and their 4 attacking players have scored 17 goals in the league this season. The only reason I can think of is that Swindon have been very strong at home this season (4-1-0 in last 5 home games, whilst Colchester had won their last 4 matches and there is an argument that they both feared each other and hence a stalemate played out.
But what I would say is that if betting on over 2.5 goals is not profitable then betting against your over 2.5 goals bets has to be. There is no margin on the exchanges.
 
.... I still think it better to back one team to win having studied the home and away form. One does not win every time but it is generally a quite but slow, profitable method. ;)
 
Thanks Delboy. I'm originally from Durham, love the place. Interesting what you say. It has been a long time since I focused on betting on the result, I switched to goal bets as I found betting on the results was getting harder and harder. When you get results like Chelsea losing at home to Sunderland which was probably the biggest banker of the day it felt like what hope have I got? But I can see from your posts that you are doing pretty well. I don't think I am ready to give up on the goal bets just yet.
 
Betfair markets are very efficient. What this means is, that if you pick any market, let's say Over 2.5 and the odds at kick off are 2.0, then over a large sample of games you will find that if you backed every selection , you will end up with a strike rate of 50%. The only way to win is to find a selection method, that gives a better strike rate than 50% for games where the odds are 2.0 at kick off.
 
The plan is to wait until the cashout is £1> then cash out and rebet against 0-0 at half time at far higher odds.


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I have always thought with over 2.5 goals that there's a need to concentrate on the home team being in form where scoring goals is concerned and the away team good at conceding, too simplistic perhaps but in truth we're just talking luck.

Six possible scores V any number of realistic scores eg 0-0 / 0-1 / 1-0 / 1-1 / 2-0 /0-2.

I believe you need some sort of tactical approach which again sounds easier than done but AI can assist.

Today i would expect ARS v PAL might produce goals but SOCCER STATS confuses me.

 
Thanks Tacker, I appreciate your comments. It certainly is important that the home team is capable of scoring goals because it's not often an away team will score 3 or more goals, in England League 1 which is one of the main leagues I follow closely, only 10 matches so far this season from 287 matches have the away team scored 3 or more goals = 3.4%, and only 45 matches have the away team score 2 or more goals in a League 1 match = 15.6% of matches. So there is a need for the home team to have a good chance of scoring 2 or more goals.

It is an interesting match Arsenal v Palace. It is a game where there is a lot of attacking quality, so many players capable of scoring goals but Arsenal keep so many clean sheets, they've only conceded 1 goal at home this season from 6 matches, whilst Palace have kept 4 clean sheets away from home in 6 matches and you have to fancy that they will set up to be solid and hard to break down. Odds of 1.82 on the exchanges for over 2.5 goals doesn't strike me as particularly good value but based on those odds the markets suggest it has a 55% chance of winning.

One bet that really stands out for me this morning is Bandirmaspor v Erokspor, Turkey 1.Lig, odds of 2.02 on the exchanges.
It is a pretty good league for scoring goals, both teams have been scoring and conceding goals in their past 6 matches, both teams have players in good form scoring goals, I expect Erokspor to be set up to be quite positive, they have a lot of attacking quality, scoring 26 goals in their last 8 league matches, last time away from home they went down to 10 men at 1-1 against a decent team and won 1-3. Bandirmaspor have averaged 18 shots at goal in their 5 home matches this season.
I recorded over 4000 bets last season and 19 matches had the same odds for the home win and over 1.5 goals, 10 won... but when there was a first half goal 7 of 9 won. I think 2.02 is good value on this bet, I'd have this one closer to 1.91 sort of price.
 
Hi M MaxiStavros First of all if you put @ in front of the name it helps the forum and traffic.

The points you make regarding ARS v PAL are obviously correct regardless of the result and that's to be appreciated and it's just worth me saying i'm definitely no expert but wanted to give the thread a shout.

ps....Will look out for your prediction and good luck.
 
So the bet I fancied - Bandirmaspor v Erokspor ended up 0-0. This is the difficulty of trying to become profitable in over 2.5 goal bets. That bet looked to tick so many boxes but not a single goal. Bandirmaspor did have 2 men sent off at the end of the first half but I don't think that made any difference, the first half didn't have many chances/shots and 0-0 at half time for over 2.5 goals bets is as good as game over. I am scratching my head at what did I miss?
 
Today's 4 2pm premier league games produced 1 over 2.5 goals match and 3 under 2.5 goal matches.
Aston Villa v Man City was 1.72 on the exchanges at kick off, I couldn't decided if this game would be under or over so maybe 1.72 shows it was poor value. But the crazy thing is so many players on the pitch capable of scoring and creating chances. Haaland, Bernardo, Foden, Bobb, Savinho??? (never seen him have a good game), Reijnders, Watkins, Buendia, Rogers, McGinn, Sancho, etc. You'd think with so many quality attacking players that this would have to have goals... however whenever anyone plays City nowadays they just get everyone behind the ball, knowing that Man City will just keep passing the ball from side to side doing and creating nothing. After Villa took the lead they just defended their lead and it didn't feel like there would be more goals. Therefore I feel that a team having players who can score is almost irrelevant if one team will just defend their lead if they go ahead.

I have a bet on Auxerre v Le Havre to be over 2.5 goals, odds of 2.24 on the exchanges. On this one I feel that it is a game where neither team will have much confidence in their form, neither should fear one another with both being in the bottom 4 and it is a match both will want to win. French league is a good league for goals, last season only 4 of the 18 teams had more under 2.5 goal matches than over 2.5 goal matches, Auxerre and Le Havre both last season had a 21-13 success rate of over 2.5 goals v under 2.5 goals.
 
Auxerre v Le Havre ended up 0-1. Another losing bet. It just seems whatever I try to base my over 2.5 goal picks on it fails right now. I have had such a mixed year, I have had 3 months which were extremely profitable, 2 months which I practically broke even and 5 months which have been a disaster. After placing over 4000 over 2.5 goal bets in the last year I can safely say I still haven't got a clue what I am supposed to be looking for to be profitable on predicting over 2.5 goal bets.
But... my huge up and down swings make me believe by betting against my picks when I am running cold and betting on my picks when I am running well that I will not let running cold cause me big losses.
 
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