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markfinn markfinn, it's in longhand so must predate AW racing :eek:. I seldom consider the artificial surface tracks, mainly because I have never had any success there.
Surprised to hear that. Find both wolves kempton two of the most reliable Chelmsford ok Lingfield harder Newcastle too new to say as yet and Southwell is a one off .

AW form works out well, would have thought your methods would suit both tracks
 
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Chepstow (going forecast good side of GS)
4.45 Probability % 09.50 nos - 1, 2, 7, 8, 10, 11 currently indicating a win restricted to these. Theoretical strong fav 5/2, contender 5/1, not expected longer than 10/1 (Nos 12, 13, 14 not considered as out of the long hcap).

1. 3*?
2. 2*
3. 1*
4.
5. 1*
6. 1*
7. 5* Rock The Kasbah 11/4 early, LTO 169? dropped 8 lbs, dropped 1 grade, C&DC. Ran well on reappearance last two season. Curtis/Jonathon Moore won this last year with Potters Cross.
8. 4* Potters Legend 13/2 early, LTO 189? dropped 13 lbs, dropped 1 grade, DBF. good form tho' beaten in hcaps, runs well fresh
9.
10. 2*
11. 2*

Comment: Selection is Rock The Kasbah f/cast as a strong fav, wouldn't want it any shorter. A saver may be in order on the yard 2nd string Relentless Dream with Jonathon Moore up. Not sure about the top weight Sizing Codelco, may have the class, won at Punchestown E350.
 
Chepstow (going forecast good side of GS)
2.50 Probable % 09.40 nos 1, 3, 7, 8, 9 currently indicating an open contest. Theoretical strong fav 2/1, contender 4/1, not expected longer than 8/1.

1. 3* Amour De Nuit 11/2 early, LTO 23, dropped 5 lbs, up 3 grades? in good form, Nichols 30/Sam T-D
2. 0
3. 3*
4. 4* Dear Sire 10/1? LTO 15, dropped 12 lbs*, same grade, has 6 wins, possible. McCain 12
5. 0
6. 0
7. 3*
8. 5* Tommy Rapper 10/3, LTO 212? dropped 5lbs, same grade, good form last season, just track fitness is the concern? D Skelton 15/ H Skelton
9. 1*

Comment: Vision Des Flos is currently a strong fav but has only won a bumper at Punchestown E590 so a lot to prove here. Tommy Rapper is top-rated with track fitness the concern.
Dear Sire is currently not expected but has to be an each-way shot. Amour De Nuit has to perform in this grade.
 
Monday and not a fun day for racing. I considered the Yarmouth feature race but swerved it as it is a stakes race and I prefer hcaps. The Windsor 3.30 class 4 was my choice.

Windsor (going forecast firm side of good)
3.30 Probability % 09.20 nos 2, 4, 5, 8, 9 currently indicating an open contest. Theoretical strong fav 7/4, contender 7/2, not expected longer than 7/1 ( Arctic Flower not considered as out of the long hcap).
Column headings: cloth no, early market, class, consistency, Topspeed, RPR

1. OXOOO 1*
2. XOOOO 1*
3. OOOXO 1*
4. XOXOX 3* Killay 5/2 early, BF. Fancied but marked down for class and speed. 3rd at Newbury last time and first time at a mile today.
5. XXXOX 4* Finale 4/1, D2. Just marked down for time. Has 2 wins and on a fair mark
6. OOOXO 1*
8. XXOOX 3* Clef 4/1, marked down on consistency and time. May be coming back to from with a 2nd last time. Fahey/Hanagan
9. XOXXX 4* Sandy Shores 7/1, C&D. Well down on class today.

Comment: Fastnet Spin is consistent but not considered here as in the not expected range. Finale looks the best overall.
 
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After assessing the Leics 3.00 I found that all the factors on my chart diverged so I will not take it any further.
 
Nottingham (going forecast better side of GS)
4.05 Probablility % 09.20 nos 1, 4, 7 currently indicating a win from these. Theoretical strong fav 2/1, contender 4/1, not expected longer than 8/1)

1. 3* Sepal 5/2 early, LTO 18, up 11 lbs? dropped 1 grade, DBF. Improved, driven to chase final fur kept on -1L Haydock 14f heavy
2. 1*
3. 2*
4. 3* Stoney Broke 15/2, LTO 34, up 4 lbs, dropped 1 grade, C. One to consider, driven and kept on same pace final fur -2L 12f soft
5. 3*
6. 1*
7. 5* Mellanoie 11/4, LTO 21, up 6lbs, same grade, C&DBF. Two good secondsrecently, chased pressing every chance kept on under pressure -neck Goodwood 14f soft
8. 0
9. 1*

Comment: Difficult to choose between Sepal and Mellanoie so probably dutching at the current odds but wouldn' want any shorter
 
Lingfield AW a departure for me but some good class races today.

Lingfield (going forecast standard)
2.25 Probability % 1o.00 nos 3, 7, 9, 12, 14 currently indicating a win restricted to these.

1. 2* 4
3. 3* 4
4. 3* 4
5. 1* 1
6. 0
7. 4* 3
8. 1* 1
9. 5* 8 Cribbs Causeway 4/1 early, LTO 26, dropped 2lbs, up 1 grade, C. 2 from 2 AW improver won well in headgear LTO
10. 0
11. 0
12. 4* 8 Melodic Motion 13/8, LTO 49, up 3lbs, same grade, BF. useful stayer.
13. 0
14 3* 3

Comment: Melodic Motion currently looks too short opposite the risk and the better bet could be Cribbs Causeway.
 
Almost four months since last post on here for me, so just checking where I am at with this.

Ascot (going forecast soft but heavy in places)
3.35 Market expected 09.30 nos 1, 5, 7 indicating a win restricted to these

1. 4* 4 (my rating) Coney Island, C&D, LTO 56, same weight, up 1 class, TS 123, best TS 130
2. 2* 5
3. 3* 6
4. 2* 4
5. 6* 10 Top Notch, C&D2, LTO 65? up 1 lb, same class, TS 143, best TS 150. Henderson/Jacob
6. 0* 0
7. 4* 8

Comment: Top Notch and Coney Island are the only two conformed by both sets of ratings. On balance Top Notch is preferred to Coney Island.
 
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3 years since I last posted on this thread - how time flies :prankster: . I thought I might have a go as it's all the rage at present and this is just my opinion and has no merit other than that. The reason I am not overly keen on VDW working platforms is that they are only an attempt to eliminate probable losers and identify three with better chances. However, that's only part of the method as the most important criteria is to 'subject them to other consideration'. The down side for me is that there is no rating to convert to odds, which I find critical to making any betting decision. here is Wol 4.10 as an example where I would produce a rating to consider. This is achieved by rating the three best on a 3-2-1 (plus any joint) basis from each criterion adding them for each runner and converting the totals to odds:

Wolverhampton (going forecast St showers)
4.10 Market expected 14.45* no's 2, 3, 4 indicating a win restricted to these. Theoretical strong fav 6/4, possible contender 3/1, not expected longer than 6/1.

Class/Market/Consistency/RPR/D.Mail Formcast are the criteria column headings.

1. 00301 = 4 - 11/1 VDW fair odds (12/1 mkt includes overround)
2*. 22312 = 10 - 7/2 (5/2) Ilza'eem 2 tips LTO 40
3*. 10301 = 5 - 17/2 (5/1)
4*. 31233 = 12 - 3/1 (15/8) Great King 8 tips LTO 18. R Varian/Rossa Ryan
5. 00022 = 4 - 11/1 (9/1)
6. 02211 = 6 - 7/1 (14/1)
7. 03102 = 6 - 7/1 (9/1)

Comment: Taking them at face value my selections would be Ilza'eem and Great King
 
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Last post for me on this thread was 15 months ago and only here today because Zoffarelli is a non-runner. Just attempted a basic 'working platform' compiled fro online RP data. A second 'elementary mechanical procedure' system.

Ascot (going forecast GS with some S) RP Spotlight selection was Zoffarelli.
2.15 Market expected 09.10* nos 1, 3, 8 indicating a win restricted to these. Theoretical strong fav 7/4, possible contender 7/2, not expected longer than 7/1.

1*. 7/2 (mkt) - 5*. Isla Kai 3 tips (D2). LTO 14*,+4lbs, =cls*, Don*, 8f*, GS*. 1/5* +nk*. Made all kept on well always doing enough*.
3*. 5/2 - 2*. (Beau Jardine - R Varian rates 23)
4. 8/1 - 1*.
5. 15/2 - 4*.
6. 10/1 - 2*.
7. 25/1 - 1*.
8*. 7/2 - 5*. Rebel Territory 1 tip. LTO 49? -4lbs*, +1 grade? Goo*, 8F* S*,. 2/10* -1 1/4L*. Rapid headway to lead ridden headed finish?
9. 11/1 -. 4*

Comment: Isla Kai is the system selection. Beau Jardine was eliminated at the second stage 55 days off track? Looks difficult for Rebel Territory? My three for proven ability on time are Isla Kai, Beau Jardine, Sergeant Tibbs, which has to be backed up with form.

ATR form verdict in comparison.
Isla Kai arrives here in great form as he searches for the hat-trick and looks sure to make the frame. Guru is also an interesting contender after a gelding operation and is now tried with first-time blinkers on his handicap debut. However, a chance is taken ZOFFARELLI, who was unlucky last time at Bath and will handle conditions if the ground has any ease.
Top Tip: ZOFFARELLI (2) (non-runner)
Watch out for: ISLA KAI (1)
 
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No time to spare today so will just crack on with a bare second 'elementary mechanical procedure' data from the RP online

Newmarket (going forecast GF wtd showers) RP Spotlight selects Starman.
4.25 Market expected 11.45 no's 1, 6, 9, 10, 13, 14, 17 indicating aw win restricted to these.

6. Glen Shiel 22/1 (mkt 11.45) - 4*
9. Oxted 11/2 - 4*
14. Dragon Symbol 5/1 - 5*
17. Rohaan 15/2 - 5*

Comment: An officer of my old Regiment rode the Darley Arabian at the Battle of the Boyne in 1689 - how's about that for a connection :). Too many runners for me so just 1 pt each for interest. By the way this would be known as a VDW 'key' race.

ATR form verdict in comparison.
A strong line-up of top-class sprinters are all set to go to post headed by OXTED, the winner of this race last year and at the top of his game after a comfortable win in the King's Stand Stakes at Royal Ascot. Three-year-olds have a good record here and Supremacy may be worthy of consideration at a big price on his 2020 form, while Dragon Symbol is looking for compensation after being disqualified from first place in the Commonwealth Cup and could also get involved in the finish.
Top Tip: OXTED (9)
Watch out for: DRAGON SYMBOL (14)
 
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Six years since my last post on this thread - doesn't time fly :dance:. Anyway I thought there may be some interest in this attempt at the second elementary mechanical procedure from the 25 Aug 1979 letter Sports Forum, SCHB.

After reviewing yesterday's result (posted elsewhere) I found that my Prof Frank George chart showed the best possible reason for the favourites unexpected failure, Ascot 5.20. That was from no 5. down all the runners were weight favoured and Live In The Moment and Call Me Ginger had both dropped over 14lbs from their last outing. That ties in with the view from the book 'Sprint Handicapping Explained' that even ounces in sprints can make a difference. That's my explanation anyway
:)
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Pontefract going forecast GF -G watered rain) RP verdict Modern News (8 pundits agree 5 oppose)
4.05 Market expected 08.40* no's 1, 7, 5 indicating a win restricted to these. This is a class 1 stakes so no OR for standard but market or time could be considered.

1*. 6* = 2/1 mkt Modern News 9 tips (BF D2). LTO 29 -1lb =cls W Buick up. 2/4 -nse* led kept on final furlong strongly challenged headed finish. (C Appleby rates 27)
2. 2* = 15/2
3. 2* = 15/2
4. 4* = 11/1
5*. 4* = 11/2 Magical Morning (D4). LTO 39? -3lbs +1cls? R Havlin up. 21/29 -13L? ridden edged right never on terms.
6. 0* = 50/1
7*. 5* = 5/2 Alflaila 3 tips. LTO 17 -8lbs=cls J Crowley up. 2/8 - 1 1/2L* ridden outpaced rallied went 2nd no match with winner

Comment: I can see no reason not to support the early market favourite or for safety dutch with Alflaila.

ATR form verdict in comparison.
Modern News may be the best horse in this line-up having already won in Listed company and after a narrow defeat at Windsor last month, but he has to give 11lb to ALFLAILA and that may be a big ask. A winner at Ascot on his return this season, he was slowly away in the Jersey Stakes at the Royal meeting and then finished second at Newmarket in a similar race last time, which looks solid form. Magical Morning and Dubai Icon are others to take seriously on their best efforts, though their lack of consistency recently is a concern.

Top Tip: ALFLAILA (7)
Watch out for: MODERN NEWS (1)
 
Some very thorough stuff there, Jackform Jackform!
What I'm still wondering after more than half a century of pondering, is

does an ounce of weight help or hinder a sprinter?

Some authorities are big believers in top-weights in sprints.
I no longer have an opinion on this, as, I just don't know the answer. :)
 
DannyK DannyK, I am afraid I am still just a pen-and-paper man when I say chart as my computer tech skills are zero.

I work from an unpublished manuscript of Professor Frank George given to me by a pro-tipster I used to do form checkd for some years ago.
I still have all my commodore64 gear but do not use much now.

DannyK
 
Got some time after doing a search for someone in OZ (jackform international :D) and will try one on the AW, which has been my nemesis. Added X's to indicate where they are rated for factors

Chelmsford (going forecast St ) RP verdict Ford Maddox Brown (5 pundits agree 4 oppose)
4.30 Market expected 13.15* no's 1, 5, 6 indicating a win restricted to these. Theoretical strong fav 7/4, contender 7/2, not expected longer than 7/1.

1. XXXXXX = 6* Ford Maddox Brown 6 tips (D) (2/1 mkt). LTO 21 +1lb =cls same jock. 3/9 _1/2L* kept on led bumped heade carried left lost 2nd
2. 0X00XX =3*
3. 0XX0X0 = 3* Eternal Glory 2 tips (D) (8/1). CM Johnston rates 16/F Norton
4. 00X000 = 1*
5. X0000X = 2*
6. XXXXXX = 6* Must Be Royale 1 tip (BF) (15/8). LTO 3 -4lbs =cls same jock. 4/8 _3L? headway ridden disputed 2nd no extra final furlong. M Appleby rates 14/H Doyle
7. 0XXX00 = 3*
8. 0X0000 = 1*

Comment: What choice is there but to dutch no's 1 and 6?

ATR form verdict in comparison.
FORD MADOX BROWN has stepped forward on his last couple of starts, including when third here earlier in the month, and the four-year-old, who didn't get the rub of the green in the closing stages on that occasion, is capable of getting his head back in front. Must Be Royale has shown promise on the all-weather and could have more to offer after his recent spins on turf, while Blame Culture and Eternal Glory appeal most of the remainder.
Top Tip: FORD MADOX BROWN (1)
Watch out for: MUST BE ROYALE (6)
 
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