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Using Speed Figures

Calimero1250

Yearling
Hi Everyone,

My question is going to sound silly, but I would like to know how you use speed figures to make your predictions. Do you use them alone? Or what would you add?

Best regards,

Fred
 
Calimero1250 Calimero1250

Hi Fred

The speed figures that TheBluesBrother TheBluesBrother provides for free on this site are a work of art and can be compared to the official rating. Straightaway comparisons can be made to see if the said horse has a speed figure higher than what the official handicapper rates the horse.

For an example, horse A may be rated 60 by the official handicapper and he records a speed figure of say 71, that is a figure 11lbs above his current official mark. Even with a 6lbs penalty he is going to be 5lbs well in, that is about a length in 5f races but more over longer.

Another example is to use the class pars that Mike provides.

Aussie Andre produced a speed figure of 77 in a class 5 the other week, the par for class 5 is 68. So he has produced a figure 11 points higher than par and with that figure would be competitive in a class 4. Aussie Andre came out and won a class 5 on his next run.
 
When a horse earns a speed figure of 77, and is put up 6lb in a handicap, as a rule of thumb I would
use a (constant) figure of 2.5, and divide this into the handicap hike.

6lbs / 2.5 = 2.4lbs (new speed figure adjustment for the race would be 75).

This only applies to horses going up in the handicap, try it out and see what you think.

Mike.
 
How can I find or compile speed ratings to try this out guys?

How is the speed rating actually calculated? I guess there are many factors, so will continue reading through the forum to improve my understanding
 
K Kev147

Here is an example, please note that the standard times figures etc,mentioned for the Curragh have been updated.

The lbs per length which I devised for each course and distance can be obtained from my standard time list, along with the furlong/distances to use.

I have highlighted the use of the lbs per calculation (Distance adjustment) below.

So in this example, the lbs per length calculation for 5f trip at the Curragh is 3.37, if a horse had run instead over 6f you would adjust the distance and use 2.82 lbs per length (See Standard times list).

In this example I used Dave Edwards "Top Speed" going allowance as an example, when I compile my own speed ratings I use my own going allowances

Here is an example how I rated the 2yo "Dawn Approach" over 5f trip at the Curragh on Sunday 25th March 2012.

One thing to note is that I do not use Weight For Age in my calcuations, you can if you want.

1. The going time for the race was +6.93s above standard.
2. The going allowance was -0.9s/f per furlong (the yeiding/Soft going was slowing the horses down).
3. I use .2 secs per length.

Now for the calculation:

multiply 5 furlongs by the going allowance i.e. -0.9

5 x -0.9 = -4.50s

As the race was run +6.93s outside standard subtract the updated going allowance correction i.e -4.50s. (note that if the going allwance was +4.50s you will have to add the going correction)

+6.93-4.50 = +2.43s.

Now divide the corrected going allowance of +2.43 by .2 secs per length.

2.43 /.2 = 12.15 lengths.

multipy the lengths by the lbs. per length calculation which is 3.37 lbs per length for 5f trip at the Curragh.

12.15 x 3.37 = 40.94

now subtract the figure 40.94 from 100.

100-40.94 = 59.06 or rounded down 59.

As Dawn Approach carried 9st 5lb we now have to adjust the speed figure of 59.
For weight carried over 9st adjust the figure for the rating i.e.

59 + 5lb = 64 ( this is Dawn Approach speed figure).

So if Dawn Approach had carried 8-11 we would have had to subtract 3lb from his speed figure i.e.

59 - 3lbs = 56.

Once you have arrived at any horses speed figure you could add the Weight for age allowance, I don't because it corrupts the ratings.

Dawn Approach ended up as my highest rated 2yo in 2012 with a speed figure of 102.

Standard times:
https://web.cloud.virginmedia.com/?shareObject=194f4b16-0ff1-8753-2530-079536e8cd56

National Hunt Ratings:
https://web.cloud.virginmedia.com/?shareObject=5b0aaf78-6d2a-5813-87c0-ee69b19afba0

Flat Ratings:
https://web.cloud.virginmedia.com/?shareObject=a4b24f84-8ef7-1af2-0ae1-02d14cbea9ad

Mike.
 
I would use speed figures as a starting point when looking at any race and I have to say the ones supplied by TheBluesBrother TheBluesBrother are excellent and many thanks are due to him for his great work in producing them.Speed figures are a good asset to any punter as they can be used to determine what going/distance preferences a horse may have and can show sometimes when official going descriptions are wrong ( it happens ! ).Always check the class /distance/going on which any speed figure was achieved against the conditions of the race under consideration.

Hope this helps in some way Calimero1250 Calimero1250 and Good Luck !
 
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