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Trainer change systems


newcomer newcomer - without meaning to teach my grandmother to suck eggs but have you looked at your existing NH strike rate against the SR excluding Irish and non-traditional jump courses eg., S'well ?

I have never known any non-Irish punter, in person or on-line, who has made a consistent profit on Irish racing.


For the NH element, it's only the UK. It's the only filter alongside days since last run (and trainer change). Like countless others, I generally struggle to do anything with Irish NH racing.


On Southwell, I think it has more trainer change runners than a lot of other courses. Generally, the system performs best at the lesser known courses. I haven't looked at it properly, but I'd call it the "Racing TV/At The Races" variable. It's only average at the "classy" courses and brilliant at the "friendly" courses. I'm simplifying, obviously.

Southwell: 30 runs. 11 winners. 112% return to BSP.


Again though, no equivalently good breakdown by class for flat/AW. When the only reason I've got is that the data (rather than any rational explanation) then I'll still be wary that the jumps results aren't aided by fortune.


Ha. A nice winner, but I probably need to revisit the flat and AW systems. I hastily put them together in March ahead of the season starting, and they're more vulnerable to backfitting than the jumps one as that one is just so simple. The Irish one is very profitable to BSP but with a miserable strike rate (8%), and I suspect it's individual cases where I've managed to inadvertently jump on to somebody else's gamble. I wouldn't want to rely on it...