• Hi Guest, The forum will be moving hosts on 26 July and as such will be closed from Midday until the move has completed.
    As we will be with new hosts it may take a while before DNS get updated so it could take while before you can get back on the forum.
    I think it will take at least 4 hours but could easily be 48!
    Ark Royal
  • There seems to be a problem with some alerts not being emailed to members. I have told the hosts and they are investigating.
  • Sorry for the ongoing issues that you may have been experiencing whilst using the forum lately

    It really is frustrating when the forum slows down or Server Error 500 pops up.

    Apparently the hosts acknowledge there is a problem.
    Thank you for using our services and sorry for the experienced delay!
    Unfortunately, these errors are due to a higher server load. Our senior department knows about the issue and they are working towards a permanent resolution of the issue, however, I'd advise you to consider using our new cPanel cloud solutions: https://www.tsohost.com/web-hosting

    I will have to investigate what the differences are with what We have know compared to the alternative service they want us to migrate to.
    Keep safe.

The SatPat Details



What is a SatPat:-
Answer:- A Saturday Patent.
Each Saturday,for a series of 10 weeks,you have 70 quid to place a 10 win or 5 e/w patent bet.

If I don't join in,can I have the money instead?
Answer:- No,it's fantasy money ,no joining fee,no prizes,just for fun,..

Why on a Saturday,and why not a larger multiple,a Yankee etc.
Answer:- Results and prices on a Saturday can be more erratic than normal,helping pinstickers like me,also there are races availanle on CH4/BBC.
A Patent is manageable,yet can still provide a good return,if you've done your dosh for 9 weeks,a 10 win Patent with a 5/4 banker and 2x 3/1 shots going in returns 802.50,a profit of 732.50 and a profit on the series of 102.50.

Can I mix and match dogs/horses/football etc;in the Patent.
Answer:- No,just horses.

Can I use races elsewhere apart from the UK and Ireland.
Answer:- No.

Can I use Bogs,BFSP etc.
Answer:- No,to create some sort of level playing field,all returns are calculated using ISP and if an e/w,to standard bookie place terms,no special offers.

Who keeps track of the totals.
Answer:- You do,each person keeps their own P/L,whether you join in every week or when you can.

Can I use a selection that has already been picked.
Answer:- Yes.

Do I include my stake money when calculating my P/L.
Answer:- No,only any profit on the bet,eg;a return of 50 would mean a deficit of 20,a 100 return,a profit of 30

1-4 runners: win only.
5-7 runners: ¼ odds a place for 1,2.
8+ runners: 1/5 odds a place for 1,2,3.
12-15 runners in handicaps only: ¼ odds a place 1,2,3
16+ runners in handicaps only: ¼ odds a place 1,2,3,4.