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Standard Times

Could anyone refer me to a set of standard times that is more accurate than the racing post?
Dave Edwards has been updating the RP standard times as we speak to correct a lot of anomalies, the set of standard times I use based on the RP I update them daily as there have been that many changes, also available on the forum are davejb davejb standards which I use to double-check any queries I come across.


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This is a more up to date version, still a work in progress though!
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I'm finding that Dave Edwards revisions to standard times are usually pretty good, running ratings based on his standards v mine there was a huge difference in my favour a few months back, much less the case now.

Dave
 
As there's a little break at present with the all-weather I've decided the next natural step is to try and get some for NH racing. I've gone straight in with some times for the two courses at Cheltenham, I've taken the corresponding times from davejb davejb's spreadsheet above, and it assumes chase horses running to 150 carrying 11st, hurdles running to 140, and NH flat to 120. The diffence column to the right the difference in pounds between the two standards.

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I'd be interested in the panel's view on how these are shaping up.
 

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As there's a little break at present with the all-weather I've decided the next natural step is to try and get some for NH racing.
One of the problems you will find with NH racing is the excessive rail movements which you no doubt know about, the real problems arise with racecourses like Market Rasen, in the past 3 seasons Market Rasen has only raced on the BHA measured inside line twice.

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Mike.
 
One of the problems you will find with NH racing is the excessive rail movements which you no doubt know about, the real problems arise with racecourses like Market Rasen, in the past 3 seasons Market Rasen has only raced on the BHA measured inside line twice.
We've discussed the use elsewhere of quadratic equations to get NH times, so given HRB results give you those rail movements, I am supposing that the standard times can be adjusted accordingly race by race when producing figures, assuming the equations work.
 

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We've discussed the use elsewhere of quadratic equations to get NH times, so given HRB results give you those rail movements, I am supposing that the standard times can be adjusted accordingly race by race when producing figures, assuming the equations work.
Yes they can but have you also need to account for historical rail movements that will affect the times you use to compile your standards, I’m sure you factored this in AustinDillon75 AustinDillon75
 
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