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Anyone who thinks Chapman was trying there at Newcastle on the fav was watching another race. Every time he made ground on the front two he took a pull. You can't keep taking a pull and expect to sprout wings. He made it look good I suppose.
 
Tap Dancer failed to pick up and another 3 duck egged maiden goes in first time in a handicap.
Days like this really make me feel like just giving up punting on horses. The rules are bent day after day and nothing is done.
 
I get you T Tufnel very poor but i think were making the mistakes of betting in these crap races.
Look at tap dancer third run is in 15 grand novice and finishes third then gets two decent runs this was its first handicap.
Then look at winner runs third race in 15 grand novice down field then wins this.
There just not betting races to be honest i bet tap dancer to by way for fun.
Were as well betting in race with all first timers on breeding .
This is deffinatly my last race on horses with no form in race to surprise us.
 
gerry said:
I get you T Tufnel very poor but i think were making the mistakes of betting in these crap races.
Look at tap dancer third run is in 15 grand novice and finishes third then gets two decent runs this was its first handicap.
Then look at winner runs third race in 15 grand novice down field then wins this.
There just not betting races to be honest i bet tap dancer to by way for fun.
Were as well betting in race with all first timers on breeding .
This is deffinatly my last race on horses with no form in race to surprise us.
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Bath should be named Blood Bath today.
I'm kicking myself ofver Albus Anne as the winner was still potentially very well treated and did beat a Goodwood winner last time. The jockey booking should have put me off the fav really. Useless.
 
Shady Bay a very apt name. How many 3 duck egged first run in a handicaps is that today?
The handicap system is more broken than ever. It is totally being abused.
 
Tufnel said:
Love to hear how they're going to explain the massive improvement and gamble on HK Fourteen.
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The winner, HK FOURTEEN (IRE), appeared to show improved form compared with its previous run at Chepstow on 26 August 2024 where the gelding finished tenth of fourteen, beaten by 11 ¼ lengths. Tony Carroll’s representative's explanation that the gelding benefitted from the drop in trip to 5 furlongs from 7 furlongs was noted. HK FOURTEEN (IRE) was routine tested.
 
mick said:
The winner, HK FOURTEEN (IRE), appeared to show improved form compared with its previous run at Chepstow on 26 August 2024 where the gelding finished tenth of fourteen, beaten by 11 ¼ lengths. Tony Carroll’s representative's explanation that the gelding benefitted from the drop in trip to 5 furlongs from 7 furlongs was noted. HK FOURTEEN (IRE) was routine tested.
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Why they bother doing these routine tests after a horse improves to win is beyond me. Drugs have got nothing to do with it. It's blatant training on the racecourse.
 
Tufnel said:
They still schooled it on the course up until today. As did several other horses who all won and showed completely transformed ability after having the 3 or 4 qualifying (or is that "toodle rounds") runs for a mark.

It happens far too often and it stinks.
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They are operating within the rules. Nothing to stop them entering a horse over the wrong distance until they get a handicap mark. Many trainers do that. Trainers are running horses for the owners, not us. The key is to spot what the trainers is up to
 
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Tufnel said:
Love to hear how they're going to explain the massive improvement and gamble on HK Fourteen.
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The drop-in trip helped 1m2f > 5f160yds!!!

Prominent, pressed leaders 2f out, pushed along to lead over 1f out, soon ridden and hung badly left, ran on well and went clear inside final furlong, readily (trainer's rep said, regarding the apparent improvement in form, that gelding benefitted from the drop in trip to 5f from 7f) (op 7/1)


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Mike.
 
TheBluesBrother said:
The drop-in trip helped 1m2f > 5f160yds!!!

Prominent, pressed leaders 2f out, pushed along to lead over 1f out, soon ridden and hung badly left, ran on well and went clear inside final furlong, readily (trainer's rep said, regarding the apparent improvement in form, that gelding benefitted from the drop in trip to 5f from 7f) (op 7/1)


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Mike.
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It’s got to be one of the most blatant wrong tripped examples ever?

The trainer is renowned for sprinters. Does anyone really believe he thought it was a middle distance horse based on its home work? Clearly must have been showing speed at home to have warranted the money yesterday too.
 
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