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Jockeys actual body weight

paul

paul

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Has anyone an idea if there is information online anywhere of jockeys normal or natural body weight ?
I remember reading years ago that it as a good indicator when particularly a “top” jockey was riding at or even below there normal body weight.
 
To illustrate my point as an example Oisin Murphy in the last 2 years hen he has ridden off a light weight
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You currently have 4 categories with specifications in your system.

Race Data - All of these categories specify only the types of races included.
Handicap/NonHandicap
Date (Year)
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Horse Data - These categories specify the individual traits of each horse in THIS race.
WeightBetween 8-9 And 9-0
Jockey Data - These categories specify characteristics for the jockey riding the analysed horse.
Jockey
Murphy, Oisin
 
mick mick who incidentally has not been around for a while has a theory about jockeys riding at their optimum weights, he does not like too much dead weight in the saddle, never looked at it myself but it may have merits
 
paul said:
To illustrate my point as an example Oisin Murphy in the last 2 years hen he has ridden off a light weight
1813921.5518121.5548.321.21.38
You currently have 4 categories with specifications in your system.

Race Data - All of these categories specify only the types of races included.
Handicap/NonHandicap
Date (Year)
20242025
Horse Data - These categories specify the individual traits of each horse in THIS race.
WeightBetween 8-9 And 9-0
Jockey Data - These categories specify characteristics for the jockey riding the analysed horse.
Jockey
Murphy, Oisin
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Easily tested paul paul
to say that the "light weight" or even "natural weight" is the reason or at least significant, you have to show that performance actually changes when the weight range changes -otherwise the results are just random

If "weight" is TRULY having an effect (the “cause”), we should see a consistent pattern then
For example
When weight goes down, win % goes up,
When weight goes up, win % goes down.

So use the exact same filters but change the weight range to capture "heavy weight" - say 9 stone 10lbs and above

If "light weight" is to be a "good indicator" as you have read then you would expect to see a poorer performance with contrast showing an opposite effect.
If that pattern doesn’t appear, or if the heavier weights show better performance - then weight IS NOT the driver.
Something else is influencing the results
Hope i've explained that well enough mate as it is massively overlooked with this kind of stuff - "cause and effect"
 
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paul said:
Has anyone an idea if there is information online anywhere of jockeys normal or natural body weight ?
I remember reading years ago that it as a good indicator when particularly a “top” jockey was riding at or even below there normal body weight.
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Over the years we've often read where jockey's go through the struggle of shedding a few pounds so has to do the weight, probably less so these days due to stricter rules but for example i'm sure i can recall Lester getting down to 8.4 to ride in a big handicap and the only logical reason must have been that the horse was fancied.
If you're looking for numbers that show such an approach might be used in a regular fashion i very much doubt it but a reasonable question imo.
 
As suggested I looked at 9stone 7lb and above
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You currently have 4 categories with specifications in your system.

Race Data - All of these categories specify only the types of races included.
Handicap/NonHandicap
Date (Year)
20242025
Horse Data - These categories specify the individual traits of each horse in THIS race.
WeightBetween 9-7 And 10-4
Jockey Data - These categories specify characteristics for the jockey riding the analysed horse.
Jockey
Murphy, Oisin
 
Think this could be an interesting area if Murphy is anything to go by .
He appears slightly more successful statistically on a higher weight but these appear over bet and make a loss.
Whereas the lower weight and often less fancied runners make a decent profit.
An area to explore further.
 
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