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FineForm Hybrid

brumbie

Yearling
I have been putting some of these up in the main Fineform thread in the last few days but I thought they should have their own thread. Yesterday were not too good but I will persevere for a while. I have been logging the results for the main bets only since 22nd August when I became fascinated once again by the simplicity of Clive Holts formula.
Results for the Main Bets:

SRWinP/LSRPlaceP/L
48.00%​
6.10​
79.17%​
1.08​
DateMeetingRaceTab NosW/LBFSPNet-5%HorseW/LBFSPNet-5%
22-Aug-20​
Chelmsford Races
5​
3​
0​
1.49​
-1.00​
3. ARCTIC VICTORY
0​
1.11​
-1.00​
22-Aug-20​
Killarney Races
8​
1​
1​
1.12​
0.11​
1. SLIGE DALA
1​
1.04​
0.04​
23-Aug-20​
Devonport Races
7​
2​
1​
2.49​
1.42​
2. UP WIND
1​
1.25​
0.24​
25-Aug-20​
Rockhampton Races
2​
3​
1​
1.40​
0.38​
3. I DID IT AGAIN
25-Aug-20​
Bangor-On-Dee Races
9​
4​
0​
3.10​
-1.00​
4. LE BOULEVARDIER
1​
1.84​
0.79​
25-Aug-20​
Catterick Races
1​
7​
1​
3.25​
2.14​
7. EY UP ITS MAGGIE
1​
1.31​
0.29​
26-Aug-20​
Belmont-Park Races
1​
1​
0​
7.00​
-1.00​
1. ZADOK
0​
2.06​
-1.00​
26-Aug-20​
Sandown-Hillside Races
3​
4​
1​
3.22​
2.11​
4. PEGGY SELENE
1​
1.42​
0.40​
26-Aug-20​
Lingfield Races
7​
1​
1​
3.18​
2.07​
1. NIGHT MOMENT
1​
1.46​
0.44​
28-Aug-20​
Gosford Races
3​
1​
1​
3.10​
2.00​
1. MISSION RIVER
1​
1.18​
0.17​
28-Aug-20​
Murwillumbah Races
6​
2​
0​
4.00​
-1.00​
2. TARDIS
0​
1.56​
-1.00​
28-Aug-20​
Pakenham-Park Races
2​
3​
1​
5.01​
3.81​
3. FREDERICK THE DANE
1​
1.72​
0.68​
28-Aug-20​
Cairns Races
5​
2​
0​
1.57​
-1.00​
2. DERULO
1​
1.05​
0.05​
28-Aug-20​
Goodwood Races
4​
4​
1​
1.40​
0.38​
4. LONE EAGLE
1​
1.17​
0.16​
29-Aug-20​
Rosehill Races
5​
3​
1​
2.85​
1.76​
3. ANDERS
1​
1.83​
0.79​
29-Aug-20​
Toowoomba Races
7​
6​
0​
3.43​
-1.00​
6. SONIC ARROW
1​
1.21​
0.20​
30-Aug-20​
Wyong Races
4​
9​
1​
3.49​
2.37​
9. ELIZABEEL
1​
1.46​
0.44​
30-Aug-20​
Great-Yarmouth Races
5​
5​
0​
2.26​
-1.00​
5. MASHMOOM
1​
1.38​
0.36​
31-Aug-20​
Grafton Races
4​
3​
0​
4.34​
-1.00​
3. UPRISE
1​
1.48​
0.45​
31-Aug-20​
Ripon Races
1​
1​
0​
2.32​
-1.00​
1. CHARLIE FELLOWES
1​
1.24​
0.23​
31-Aug-20​
Sandown-Park Races
1​
4​
0​
3.15​
-1.00​
4. COLOMBE
0​
1.70​
-1.00​
3-Sep-20​
Northam Races
3​
3​
0​
1.63​
-1.00​
3. PERFECT HARMONY
1​
1.13​
0.12​
3-Sep-20​
Haydock-Park Races
1​
1​
0​
1.47​
-1.00​
1. DAYSAN
1​
1.13​
0.12​
3-Sep-20​
Newcastle Races
3​
4​
1​
1.59​
0.56​
4. FIVETHOUSANDTOONE
1​
1.09​
0.09​
3-Sep-20​
Newcastle Races
5​
1​
0​
4.78​
-1.00​
1. RHOSCOLYN
0​
2.63​
-1.00​

Some days are barren of selections but looking back there are some good results from horses that very nearly became a selection and so I will include them as a 2nd line.
These selections are a hybrid of using the Fineform basic formula and some of my other thoughts of finding a selection over the years. Excel automates it all and most selections will come from Australian and UK meetings with the occasional Kiwi. Thanks.
 
Good luck brumbie brumbie Always been a fan of the Holt formula, of sorts.
Best to have your own thread and 6 points profit for nearly 2 weeks looks very reasonable, and more importantly, stable.
 
Thanks retriever, unfortunately with only 1 winner from the last 8 half the profits have gone.:(
There is nothing today for the main ratings system but these are the ones that nearly got there:
MeetingRace NosHorseTab NosCH RatingCH RankCrse RankDist RankDays Rank
Down-Royal Races
3​
OMAKASE
1​
5​
1​
1​
1​
1​
Kempton-Park Races
2​
LIGHTENING SHORE
6​
2​
1​
1​
1​
1​
Thirsk Races
2​
ALBA ROSE
9​
3​
1​
1​
1​
1​
 
2 nice winners yesterday from the 2nd string:
LIGHTENING SHORE
9.4​
ALBA ROSE
2.68​

There is 1 selection today from the main qualifiers for Australia and a few from the 2nd string:
Main Qualifiers
MeetingRace NosHorseTab NosCH RatingCH RankCrse RankDist RankDays RankCurrent BF
Hawkesbury Races
5​
NOT ANOTHER REIBY
1​
6​
1​
1​
1​
1​
2.62​
2nd String
MeetingRace NosHorseTab NosCH RatingCH RankCrse RankDist RankDays RankCurrent BF
Gold-Coast Races
5​
ELGIN
3​
3​
1​
1​
1​
1​
4.80​
Hawkesbury Races
2​
SELEQUE
10​
3​
1​
1​
1​
1​
2.92​
Moonee-Valley Races
7​
DIRTY THOUGHTS
3​
10​
1​
1​
1​
1​
6.40​
Morphettville Races
4​
ZIPADEE
9​
3​
1​
1​
1​
1​
18.50​
Toowoomba Races
5​
PROUD ROC
1​
10​
1​
1​
1​
1​
6.40​
Any UK qualies around 10.30am UK
 
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Just 2 2nd string runners today:
2nd String
MeetingRace NosHorseTab NosCH RatingCH RankCrse RankDist RankDays Rank
Wexford Races
4​
REBEL WALTZ
3​
5​
1​
1​
1​
1​
Wexford Races
6​
BLAZE A TRAIL
5​
5​
1​
1​
1​
1​
 
Hi Brumbie,
Do you remember Clive Holts famous quote.."Be a successful punter with Fineform as your guide"
I remember picking up a copy in a bookshop and it was an interesting read.It embodied all the logical approaches to racing.
If I remeber rightly he documented a season's betting(I think it was over the jumps)where he managed to turn quite a reasonable profit.
Kenny
 
I often read about the "Fineform Formula" and saw most made it sound as if Clive Holt used the figures to simply back the top rated blindly, so I discounted his books straight away.

Recently I brought a copy from Amazon and was suprised and happy to find that Clive Holt didn't just use the figures as standalone ratings but used them as a starting point to weed out competitive races and then read the form alongside.
 
The line that has always stuck with me, from the front of one of his books is :-

Profitable WINNERS Always BACK Value WINNERS

clive-holt.jpg
 
HI Retriever,
Did you ver read Ken Payne's autobiography,called the Coup.He started life as a window cleaner and ended up as a major trainer famous for pulling off big coups back in the 60's.I lost my copy years ago but it was a cracking read.
Ken
 
I think the red book "Be a successful punter with Fineform as your guide" was the first book I bought kenny and then the green one that reciever has. I couldn't put them down and read them over and over. I was fascinated by his life style of going from meetings to meetings day and night around Northern England.Before I came over here to Aus I had around 5 years supply of The Racing Post in the cupboard and I would spend hours shifting through them using his formula then trying to add that something extra, which I guess is similar to what you are doing formtheory. I think it's a great starting point.
Congrats on your HRB TREND thread reciever, I'm afraid you've got me hooked...hope you keep it going.....and don't become a window cleaner....
 
Todays Ratings for Australia:

Main Qualifiers
MeetingRace NosHorseTab NosCH RatingCH RankCrse RankDist RankDays RankCurrent BF
Sunshine-Coast Races
3​
BERING SEA
1​
6​
1​
1​
1​
1​
1.26​
Wingatui Races
4​
NOMEN LUDI
1​
7​
1​
1​
1​
1​
2.64​
2nd String
MeetingRace NosHorseTab NosCH RatingCH RankCrse RankDist RankDays RankCurrent BF
Alice-Springs Races
1​
THATS JUSTIFIED
1​
10​
1​
1​
1​
1​
2.12​
Gundagai Races
2​
DEEMED CORRUPT
3​
5​
1​
1​
1​
1​
4.3​
 
Todays UK:

Main Qualifiers
MeetingRace NosHorseTab NosCH RatingCH RankCrse RankDist RankDays RankCurrent BF
Fontwell-Park Races
1​
QULOOB
2​
8​
1​
1​
1​
1​
2.24​
2nd String
MeetingRace NosHorseTab NosCH RatingCH RankCrse RankDist RankDays RankCurrent BF
Fontwell-Park Races
4​
TALKING ABOUT YOU
7​
5​
1​
1​
1​
1​
9.6​
 
Nice winner yesterday @ 15.5 making it 4 from 7 in the UK. I will sort the stats out at the end of the week.
Quiet day and nothing from Australia, will update UK around 10.30am UK time.
 
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Thanks kenny, I couldn't believe it, I quickly switched over whilst the F1 was on, smiled and cracked a beer open...even though it was 11.45pm over here ....:handgestures-thumbup:
Just one today:
Main Qualifiers
MeetingRace NosHorseTab NosCH RatingCH RankCrse RankDist RankDays Rank
Perth Races
7​
BIG JIM DWYER
1​
4​
1​
1​
1​
1​
 
Quite a few today for the UK:

Main Qualifiers
MeetingRace NosHorseTab NosCH RatingCH RankCrse RankDist RankDays Rank
Galway Races
1​
FLYING VISIT
4​
4​
1​
1​
1​
1​
Goodwood Races
3​
GREYSTOKE
2​
3​
1​
1​
1​
1​
2nd String
MeetingRace NosHorseTab NosCH RatingCH RankCrse RankDist RankDays Rank
Catterick Races
3​
B FIFTY TWO
3​
5​
1​
1​
1​
1​
Goodwood Races
2​
TICK TOCH
12​
1​
1​
1​
1​
1​
Newton-Abbot Races
2​
HORSE FORCE ONE
3​
5​
1​
1​
1​
1​
 
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