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Does VAR favour low scores ?

I think with VAR fewer goals will be scored.
There are the following situations:

1) A goal is scored then disallowed - We have seen this many times.
2) A goal is disallowed then after VAR inspection the goal stands - We have seen that too, but I think it's less frequent. If nothing else, it invariably means the flag went up split seconds before the goal so it's infrequent.

With penalties now:

1) Penalty given then taken back - Does happen. The team against whom the penalty is awarded always calls for var inspection.
2) Penalty not given then given by the VAR - This too can happen but I think it is less frequent.

So I think there will be fewer goals.
But this should also be investigated statistically.
Which countries had VAR for the entire 2018-19 season and did n't have before ?
 

tacker

Mare
I think with VAR fewer goals will be scored.
There are the following situations:

1) A goal is scored then disallowed - We have seen this many times.
2) A goal is disallowed then after VAR inspection the goal stands - We have seen that too, but I think it's less frequent. If nothing else, it invariably means the flag went up split seconds before the goal so it's infrequent.

With penalties now:

1) Penalty given then taken back - Does happen. The team against whom the penalty is awarded always calls for var inspection.
2) Penalty not given then given by the VAR - This too can happen but I think it is less frequent.

So I think there will be fewer goals.
But this should also be investigated statistically.
Which countries had VAR for the entire 2018-19 season and did n't have before ?

A great question, my guess would have been the other way round to your thinking but going forward it depend on how var might be used. In the womens world Cup upstairs is getting involved in everything it can and in the long run we will see more goals, when we look back at matches the experts are constantly pointing out that there should have been a foul anywhere else on the pitch but the ref bottles it.
THAT WILL CHANGE.
 
A great question, my guess would have been the other way round to your thinking but going forward it depend on how var might be used. In the womens world Cup upstairs is getting involved in everything it can and in the long run we will see more goals, when we look back at matches the experts are constantly pointing out that there should have been a foul anywhere else on the pitch but the ref bottles it.
THAT WILL CHANGE.

I always supported var.
In radio phone in programs too in the nineties. The radio journalists did n't like my idea, because those stations reach peak audience whenever there is a refereeing scandal. Oh no, they said, you want to deprive football of its charm, who are you ?

I reckon the extreme as injustice goes was this one, from the Greek cup final of the year 2013:


You will notice tv have time to broadcast two (2) replays but the referees whose view was obstructed did not give it !
And they of course did not have the right to make a phonecall to the commercial tv station and ask.

Var can be used in a variety of situations.
Even throw ins awarded to the wrong team.
The one case it cannot be used is when the attacker is waved off side and he is not really off side. How can you make play resume is such a situation ?

Some people believe there will be more pens rather than less, but to figure out we need to know the stats.
How can we find when it started in every country ?
 

canaryfan69

Yearling
I think with VAR fewer goals will be scored.
There are the following situations:

1) A goal is scored then disallowed - We have seen this many times.
2) A goal is disallowed then after VAR inspection the goal stands - We have seen that too, but I think it's less frequent. If nothing else, it invariably means the flag went up split seconds before the goal so it's infrequent.

With penalties now:

1) Penalty given then taken back - Does happen. The team against whom the penalty is awarded always calls for var inspection.
2) Penalty not given then given by the VAR - This too can happen but I think it is less frequent.

So I think there will be fewer goals.
But this should also be investigated statistically.
Which countries had VAR for the entire 2018-19 season and did n't have before ?
I Agree with what you are saying I think there will be more disallowed goals than goals awarded through VAR but will be interesting to see how the bookies call it . I noticed for the last 2 months of the season most bookies reduced the odds on BTTS. eg. when a typical match used to average from around 1.85 It then went down to about 1.66 . I won't be betting on BTTS or over 2.5 goals unless they become more generous with their odds. The only other way to avoid this issue is to bet on leagues like the championship or League 1 where no VAR is involved. Both these leagues had good percentages on BTTS last season . The Championship and league 1 both had 54% of their games finishing with both teams scoring. Which was higher than the premier league (51%)
 
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In Italy Serie A, 2017-18 = 1017 goals, 2018-19 = 1019 goals.
In Germany Bundesliga 1, 2017-18 = 855 goals, 2018-19 = 973 goals.
In Italy they have 20 teams, in Germany 18 teams.
Strange.
 
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