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Compiling Speed figures.

Bertie123

Yearling
Oh I thought it was me ! Ever since they updated and modified the site it’s been useless. One of their “technicians “ said to me that they were concentrating more on IPads and Mobile phones. Well it’s still useless on those platforms too!
 
For the past several days the problem trying to save my speed figures via the RP reared its ugly head again, all I kept on getting was errors and struggled to save anything.
When I try to access the server using my IP address of 82.27.95.XXX it was a no go, using an anonymous USA New York proxy via Hidemyass I didn't have a problem.

In a nutshell, there is either a serious bottleneck between my IP address or the 82.27.95.XXX IP addresses are banned.


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Mike.
 
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Nellsman

Colt
Hi TheBluesBrother TheBluesBrother,
likewise, I've had bother all last week, it really is getting beyond a joke. Sometimes my ratings load sometimes they don't and sometimes they take up to a minute. they (RP) never accept that the problem is not local. Not sure what else I can do to get them to acknowledge there is a problem.
 

saxonprop

Newbie
O Outlander

My biggest fear and nightmare, Tramore (IRE) today is running a mixed card, how on earth is anybody supposed to compile speed figures for this racecourse.

Mike.
Hi Mike. Do you still have link to your standard times and speed figures?
O Outlander

My biggest fear and nightmare, Tramore (IRE) today is running a mixed card, how on earth is anybody supposed to compile speed figures for this racecourse.

Mike.
 

Aliantora

Newbie
Hi TheBluesBrother TheBluesBrother ,

Would you mind checking your uploaded NH figures for yesterday? I was checking them for reference against mine and something odd was happening with the dates and times. Not something I've seen or noticed before.
(I haven't worked out how to attach a screenshot of it to here sorry)
So for example the top 4 (abbreviated) rows are:

12.30 warwick Phoenix Way 107
12.30 warwick stratagem 100
12.30 ffos las Hill Sixteen 100
12.30 warwick arian 96

Has it happened to anyone else or it me doing something stupid?

Thanks
 
Just wondered if anyone else has had problems in recent weeks with the fast / slow times against the standard pars at Dundalk being changed from the earlier figures originally posted. Not sure how far this problem goes back but it has undermined a lot of hard work. Any thoughts welcome.
Steve
 
Would you mind checking your uploaded NH figures for yesterday? I was checking them for reference against mine and something odd was happening with the dates and times. Not something I've seen or noticed before.

Well done good spot, this has happened before, I corrected the file.
We did bring in a safeguard to stop this from happening again, I will have to be more vigilant in the future.

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FLAT2018_2020: FLAT2018_2020.xlsx
NH2018_2020: NH2018_2020.xlsx

Mike.
 
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The lbs per length which I devised for each course and distance can be obtained from my standard time list (see below) along with the furlong distances to use.

I have highlighted the use of the lbs per calculation (Distance adjustment) below.

So in this example, the lbs per length calculation for 5f trip at the Curragh is 3.37, if a horse had run instead over 6f you would adjust the distance and use 2.82 lbs per length (See Standard times list).

In this example I used Dave Edwards "Top Speed" going allowance as an example, when I compile my own speed ratings I use my own going allowances

Here is an example how I rated the 2yo "Dawn Approach" over 5f trip at the Curragh on Sunday 25th March.

One thing to note is that I do not use Weight For Age in my calcuations, you can if you want.

1. The going time for the race was +6.93s above standard.
2. The going allowance was -0.9s/f per furlong (the yeiding going was slowing the horses down).
3. I use .2 secs per length.

Now for the calculation:

multiply 5 furlongs by the going allowance i.e. -0.9

5 x -0.9 = -4.50s

As the race was run +6.93s outside standard subtract the updated going allowance correction i.e -4.50s. (note that if the going allwance was +4.50s you will have to add the going correction)

+6.93-4.50 = +2.43s.

Now divide the corrected going allowance of +2.43 by .2 secs per length.

2.43 /.2 = 12.15 lengths.

multipy the lengths by the lbs. per length calculation which is 3.37 lbs per length for 5f trip at the Curragh.

12.15 x 3.37 = 40.94

now subtract the figure 40.94 from 100.

100-40.94 = 59.06 or rounded down 59.

As Dawn Approach carried 9st 5lb we now have to adjust the speed figure of 59.
For weight carried over 9st adjust the figure for the rating i.e.

59 + 5lb = 64 ( this is Dawn Approach speed figure).

So if Dawn Approach had carried 8-11 we would have had to subtract 3lb from his speed figure i.e.

59 - 3lbs = 56.

Once you have arrived at any horses speed figure you could add the Weight for age allowance, I don't because it corrupts the ratings.

Compiling speed ratings is easy :minigun:

Dawn Approach ended up as my highest rated 2yo with a speed figure of 102
Apologies if this has been covered in this thread already.
I've noticed that sometimes race courses have slightly different race distances than normal for whatever reason, it is sometimes just a few yards but can be more. If you have a table of standard times based on historical data it might be you have only a few races at this "slightly different distance" or it may only have been introduced during the current season. Either you have a missing standard time or you have a standard time that doesn't fit i.e. a longer distance but a faster standard time for the class and vice versa.
My thoughts would be to create your normal standard times for race distances where there is at least an agreed number of races for confidence in the standard time produced then create standard times for different distances e.g. up to plus or minus 20 yds via a mathematical formula to be replaced when the accepted number of races have been achieved.
Any ideas what calculation I could use to extrapolate these new standard times?
 
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