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Racefan81

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Hi all,

Been looking into compiling speed figures for a while, and have found a wealth of information on this site, so thank you to all contributors.

The question I have is to do with standard times, and whether or not it is a worthwhile exercise to compile my own standard times or simply use the standard times as set by The Racing Post? There seems to be mixed feedback from many compilers of ratings, and one issue is that they feel the posts standard times are not reliable enough to compile the best speed ratings.

Given that both Chesham Chesham and TheBluesBrother TheBluesBrother have offered up some superb information on the subject of speed ratings, I would be extremely grateful for their opinion on the matter.

Regards
Dave
 
R Racefan81

Sorry for the late reply, I was not alerted to this post.

The main problem with compiling standard times in this country, is the continuous rail movements, which can increase or decrease a race distance.

If we take Last Monday's fixture at Windsor, I cannot recall the last time they never moved the rails on the outer course.

WINDSOR/MON 24 APR

GOING/TRACK
Good to Firm. (Watered) (GoingStick: 8.6 on Monday at 07:30)
Rails:Inner of straight dolled out 7yds at 6f and 4yds at the Winning Line. Top bend dolled out 6yds from normal inner configuration, adding 23yds to race distances of 1m+
Stalls:1m 3f & 1m 2f :- centre. Remainder:- inside.

www.britishhorseracing.com/race-info/fixtures/results/fixture-results/#!/2017/1736

So on the round course distances of 1m+ I would extract 1.53s from the comparison per furlong times (23yds / 15 = 1.53s).

So with this simple example, it would be impossible to compile accurate standard times for Windsor unless the times were adjusted for any rail movements.

This also effects sectional times, one on the worst examples I ever came across was at Fakenham where in one race you had to add 257yds to the race distance, which meant extracting
17.13s from the comparison per furlong times, do you think that the extra 257yds might effect your standard times calculations.

Only this morning I pointed out to Dave Edwards that the Racing Posts Punchestown 3m½f(C) standard time was 9.0s out, and most days I am always updating my standard times list.

Standard times: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3rVp0WNvwn8anUySlNvSjN1bXM

Mike.
 
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